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Ex FSO GRIFFO 20th Jun 2015 09:33

Busselton Airport to be expanded to cater for 'Direct Interstate Flights'....
 
From this evening's news....Sat. 20th,

Direct interstate flights to WA's South West a game changer, Minister says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

This should enhance the tourist value of the SW.
Most of the $$'s are from 'Royalties For Regions', with the remainder from the State Dept of Transport, and the Busselton Shire.....

Busselton Shire is putting in $3.5M, reportedly, so does that mean it is now fully supported locally, and 'some local residents' who complain about aircraft noise before / after 'certain times' will now be able to voice their concerns direct to the Shire, or will some 'curfew hours' be introduced...?

Cheers :ok:

Capn Bloggs 20th Jun 2015 09:56


Busselton Shire is putting in $3.5M
So that's where our rates go... :=

Bunch of hillbillies.

Left_Pedal 20th Jun 2015 10:29

I shake my head.....

The Busselton Shire is one of the worst Shire's I've previously had to deal with.
For me to have a helicopter tourism operation based at the Busselton Airport the Busselton Shire demanded that a clause be present so that if there were ANY helicopter noise complaints that my approval to operate from the airport would immediately be revoked.

I wonder if that same clause will be present with the major airlines? Of course not.....

The Busselton Shire is just another one of those towns who love the tourism dollar but not the tourism that comes with it.

The entire Busselton Shire (and Augusta Margaret River Shire) need to be totally disbanded and new staff brought in who know how to effectively build a tourism region to benefit the locals and local businesses.

It'll be a matter of time before the NIMBY's start protesting and the Shire's will bow down to them...... again.

:ugh:

Fred Gassit 20th Jun 2015 10:43

I found the Shire ok to deal with but the locals in the airport vicinity have severely restricted activity there.
On another note Melbourne or Sydney to Busselton sounds weird, would there be the numbers to support it?

gerry111 20th Jun 2015 12:49

Margaret River's certainly a lovely place to visit, along with the fascinating limestone caves and those interesting towns whose names end in 'up'. (Although a bottle of Vasse Felix Shiraz still remains cheaper to buy at my local Dan Murphy's than at the actual winery cellar door. :sad:)

Perhaps we should be all supporting the upgrades to YBLN provided that we are not local ratepayers? Other people's money spent on airfield improvements has to be a good move?

The thought that there may be a viable market for people to fly there direct from the Eastern states in B737 or A320 aircraft is rather interesting.

A very "courageous decision". ;)

onetrack 20th Jun 2015 13:12

It's going to be the biggest white elephant that has ever had "Royalties for Regions" funds splurged on it. We're not exactly talking about visitors to Busselton being in the annual multi-millions, are we? :rolleyes:
Then there's the questions of flight timings and airfares. I'm sure Sydney-Busselton tickets will regularly be on discount special - not.
Then there's also the anti-aircraft drug brigade that will be doing it's best to stop increased flight numbers for fear of their cash crops being spotted more often from the air.
They'll be supported in a weird alliance by the anti-aircraft noise brigade, who'll be more vocal than a bunch of boozed-up Irish, at pub closing time.
All in all, it's a poor decision, driven by the wrong reasons, by the wrong people, who have huge surplus funds to splurge on W.A. country towns that otherwise have very little going for them.
This expenditure will join the other long list of R for R expenditure that has been wasted on handfuls of people in rural areas.

josephfeatherweight 20th Jun 2015 13:52

Apparently there's been zero market research into which airlines are going to be operating these "direct interstate flights."
This is an absolute joke and waste of money.

Clare Prop 21st Jun 2015 00:53

I remember when the "new" Busselton airport was built about 20 years ago all these things being said then.

It was an improvement on the cow paddock for sure, but it wasn't long before it was forbidden to do a touch and go there in a Warrior for noise reasons.... :ugh:

onetrack 21st Jun 2015 02:12

Amongst all the hoo-haa and politician back-slapping and vote-buying, there has been a complete failure to note that Busselton is served from Perth by one of W.A.'s best and newest highways - the Forrest Highway - which ensures an easy drive from Perth to Busselton in less than 2.5 hrs.

The difference in ticket prices between choosing Perth or Busselton as your destination will ensure most travellers will choose Perth instead of Busselton.
Add in the fact that Avis are the only car hire company in Busselton (read - no competition), and hiring a car much more cheaply from the hundreds of hire providers in Perth, will make landing at Perth a no-brainer.

I guess the authorities could go the whole hog, make Busselton an international airport, organise direct flights from 100 cities in China, and drop 100,000 confused Chinese tourists annually into the middle of Busselton - where the accommodation is limited to about 20,000 beds annually, with just a couple of resorts and half-a-dozen cheap and nasty motels - and they could wander the streets of the town looking for a feed at 20:00HRS, and finding every single business closed and shuttered, typical of W.A. country towns after sundown. :rolleyes:

On eyre 21st Jun 2015 03:43

Yep - modern version of PNG cargo cult mentality. Hope they factor in A380 capability in the design phase.

Stikman 21st Jun 2015 05:09

'Spose they could always transform the jetty into a runway.. :}

sillograph 21st Jun 2015 08:47


Originally Posted by Stikman (Post 9019067)
'Spose they could always transform the jetty into a runway.. :}

Do they even have Jet A1?

Currently shows only avgas available. Pretty much sums it up.

onetrack 21st Jun 2015 09:20

Sillograph - I'm sure, that for the $60M, Busselton will get a fine refuelling arrangement, with the latest in greatest in equipment, storage and choice. The turnaround problems might be in having to wake up the refueller, and wait an hour while he/she gets organised, if you land after sundown. :)

Fred Gassit 21st Jun 2015 09:29

Its only 20 minutes or so from Perth (1.5 hours coming back of course with the mandatory holding at Mandu etc. etc.) shouldn't need Jet juice for legs that short.
Pity there aren't more places in WA with AVGAS.

topend3 24th Jun 2019 11:22

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/thew...881230719z.amp

apparently according to the busso mayor it’s now imminent! And they can build the terminal in just 7 months ! Rumour is JQ but surely they have a profitable place they can send an aeroplane overnight from Melbourne ? Watch this space and the mayor also says direct flights to singapore and China could be hot on the heels hahahaha

YPJT 24th Jun 2019 12:47

The existing terminal and security setup was designed for a F50 that was usually operating on loads of about 50% capacity.
To upgrade the terminal / build a new one and procure the required equipment in that short space of time is a very bold undertaking.

Well at least the massive 3 x A330 bay apron might see a bit of use apart from the F100 charters to the Pilbara

topend3 24th Jun 2019 13:14

The design of the terminal and lead time will be 7 months minimum let alone construction time. In the meantime
operate from a tent. Difficult to see how any airline is going to go in there more than once a week.

Global Aviator 24th Jun 2019 15:58

I heard Scoot were looking at a tag with Tiger bit Scoot aircraft.

Sin - Per - Busso - Per - Sin.

Crew stay Busso, where???

Actually sounds like a kinda airline way to do it. Singapore direct Busso (yeah we know)........

There are actually ****e loads of Singaporens invested in WA.

poteroo 24th Jun 2019 22:14


Originally Posted by YPJT (Post 10501829)
The existing terminal and security setup was designed for a F50 that was usually operating on loads of about 50% capacity.
To upgrade the terminal / build a new one and procure the required equipment in that short space of time is a very bold undertaking.

Well at least the massive 3 x A330 bay apron might see a bit of use apart from the F100 charters to the Pilbara

Things at Busso are not good for any form of GA - being kicked out of 'old' terminal, the hangars 'resumed' and new leases decreed, and the activities of local flying schools discouraged. Add to this the incredible audacity in bidding for a QF flying school - when there is not, and never will be, a cross runway there. There will need to be a be a massive re-plan to make an ab initio school viable. This will incentivise the local NIMBY's, who are re-locating, from the Perth metro into the SW, in numbers. The new Forrest Highway is now proving it's worth - such an improvement on the old roads! Once the Bunbury bypass is done, it will bring Busselton within 2.0 hrs of Perth.
happy days,

TTY 25th Jun 2019 00:01

Looks like the Busso mayor and the mayor of YSTW swap dreams, like spending millions to provide parking for several 737/800s to be used to fly airfreight to Asian destinations but can't comprehend that nobody is using 737's to move freight from the east coast to Asia. It's easy to dream when your spending somebody else,s money.


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