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theSOD 25th May 2015 06:43

GA8 Endo in Brisbane
 
Hi all.

Anyone know of a school or operator in the Brisbane region that will allow you to do some time on type?

Mucho thanko's

megle2 25th May 2015 08:56

No, don't think there are any based in SE Qld
But maybe I'm wrong

BPA 25th May 2015 09:23

Closest operator to a Brisbane would be Air Fraser

iPahlot 26th May 2015 06:06

theSOD, I wouldn't bother. Get some 200 series time instead.

Flying an Airvan is simple and it'll be a whole lot cheaper doing time in a 200 series plane and it'll cover you when you go remote.

Save as much money as you can before heading north/west. :ok:

skkm 26th May 2015 06:13

+1 to getting 200 series time rather than Airvan. There's nothing remotely challenging about flying the GA8.

Squawk7700 26th May 2015 06:53


+1 to getting 200 series time rather than Airvan. There's nothing remotely challenging about flying the GA8.
Except that most operators require 5 hours on type for insurance purposes...

Jabawocky 26th May 2015 07:02

And study the POH and report back with the dumbest POH entry you can find. :ok:

Yes the guys at GA know about it too (after I found it)….but nobody does anything because it is too hard to fix, but hey they and the numpty at CASA that approved it :ugh::ugh::ugh:

A quick hint for the smart ones thinking what is Jaba up to here. It is a procedure that is (a) not going to achieve the objective intended and does the exact opposite, (b) is actually harder on the engine than the way it was meant to be operated. :}

I know one lot of GA8 guys who now know the POH is wrong and I think they have amended their ops manuals. So those guys might know.

Chocky frog to the first person who finds it :ok:

pistnbroke_again 26th May 2015 07:22

I actually really enjoyed flying the airvan. Nice and easy but prepare for a sore butt and back! As everyone here has said, 200 time is more valuable. You can literally get in an airvan and fly it no dramas

theSOD 26th May 2015 08:19

Hey all thanks for the replies.

Tried Air Fraser and they wont do any time on type for the public. Not sure why didn't say. Is there any operators that run the airvan in Northern NSW?


As for the other comments, I have got some time on the 200's series. Was looking to add another string to my bow and get a couple hours on the airvan. From what ive heard it basically flies itself.

wishiwasupthere 26th May 2015 08:33


Except that most operators require 5 hours on type for insurance purposes...
You'll get that as ICUS anyway.

Squawk7700 26th May 2015 08:59

ICUS?

So you call up an operator at Lake Eyre after the last guy quit abruptly, trying to secure an Airvan job and have no time on type. Do you think they are going to give you 5 hours ICUS whilst you find your feet? No.

Edit: With no time on type your resume would likely quickly hit the bottom of the pile and someone else will have started work whilst you are still waiting for an email reply.

skkm 26th May 2015 09:03

At least one operator does.

wishiwasupthere 26th May 2015 09:10


ICUS? So you call up an operator at Lake Eyre after the last guy quit abruptly, trying to secure an Airvan job and have no time on type. Do you think they are going to give you 5 hours ICUS whilst you find your feet? No.
Any operator with a shred of professionalism should. Every job I've had had anywhere from about 5 to 20 hours ICUS (depending on aircraft) before being let loose.

theSOD 26th May 2015 11:47

yeah thanks for that, however Im looking at taking the time on type back to NZ or to Africa, where you do actually need it on your licence tyvm

iPahlot 26th May 2015 20:51

The only Airvan that I know of that is for general hire is down in the latrobe valley at the aeroclub.

Most operators won't give you time on their aircraft because for insurance and training purposes you'd have to be an employee.

Squawk7700, if that operator won't give someone ICUS when they start then I think they'd be in the vast minority.

Also a bizarre tactic for a scenic flight company. "That over there ladies and gentlemen is Lake....errrr " <scrambles for WAC> ":mad: where are we? Oh right that is lake eyre.. no wait!..."

Squawk7700 26th May 2015 22:22

There are two 21 year old CPL's from the same flying school sausage factory, both nice guys, equivalent in skills. 1 has 10 Airvan hours and the other has none... Who will get the job flying the Airvan?

Left 270 26th May 2015 23:41

^7700

The better suited to the company, in every case i've seen. What effort/cost in in 5-10hrs ICUS? Negligible

theSOD 27th May 2015 02:29

I know of a well established and high reputation air carrier in the NT that doesn't pay you for your ICUS, so its no loss to them either way.

Pilots by day, professional pizza makers by night.:ok:

Left 270 27th May 2015 03:10

"high reputation air carrier" "Doesnt pay for ICUS"

Not sure that they can be in the same sentence.

I also think the other mobs on the field might take offence to them being described as " high reputation air carrier" :ok:

wishiwasupthere 27th May 2015 03:12

High reputation but doesn't pay for an employee's ICUS (which considering it can be done during revenue flights, is a negligible cost)? Sounds like a good place to avoid!


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