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Clare Prop 6th Apr 2015 13:55

What you teach is the same as ever, but the way it is recorded is different and can be a lot easier to understand someone's progress than "Bloggs did some quite good landings today" type comments from the old hate sheets.

The weak link IMO is the standard of instructors coming through the system. The amount of fugly instructors who do/say things because "my instructor told me" rather than any kind of in depth knowledge of their own is worrying. They may be able to give nice colourful briefings and land safely from the right hand seat but many wouldn't know the difference between teaching someone something and telling someone something, how to asses the student and then record the outcomes of the lesson in an objective way...I really don't think the current instructor course covers that adequately.

Ask them how they would asses someone as competent and the usual answer is along the lines of "when they can do it like I can because my instructor said that was OK" just shows that it is the training of the trainers than needs to be looked at.

Tee Emm 6th Apr 2015 14:43


but the way it is recorded is different and can be a lot easier to understand someone's progress than "Bloggs did some quite good landings today" type comments from the old hate sheets.
Nicely put, Clare P. I believe the cause of poor English expression often seen in student progress reports, goes right back to lack of well disciplined High School (Sorry - Secondary College) education. Everyone gets a mandatory star against their work no matter how bad it is.

Ticking the myriad boxes in the progress report matrix is fine if your standard of English expression is found wanting.. Opinions differ - but I for one prefer to read a well written concise progress report rather than use my finger to run down a boxed list of ticks. One of my pet grouches is reading a student's progress report starting with: "Adolf - you did very well today. Well done. Adolf's steep turns could be improved and he should try to look outside a little more. Landings are coming along nicely. Checks could be improved, Adolf - and just a reminder to keep using that under-arm deodorant" etc etc.

Clare Prop 7th Apr 2015 02:52

I designed a system where there is room next to each "box" to write comments appropriate to that particular unit of competency, also using colour coding allows for a quick reference to check a student's progress at a glance. The sheet for each lesson is used as part of the debrief and the student signs that it is a true record.

I do get files transferred from other organisations which you can tell have been a "tick and flick" exercise and actually tell me no more than the logbook does about the student's flying progress. The students tell me they have never seen any of their training records.

Stinky Student Syndrome comes under NTS 1.5 Maintain effective communication & interpersonal relationships

4Greens 7th Apr 2015 09:25

CBT is the phrase used world wide. It is touchy- feely psycho babble.


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