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Aerozepplin 21st Feb 2015 04:38

Emergency AD after fatal R44 Accident
 
CAANZ have released an emergency AD following TAIC's initial scene investigation of the R44 that crashed near Queenstown. Could be a big event. I can't remember the last AD that prohibited further flight.

I can't paste the address but the CAA site has the AD and NZ news sites are covering it.

tail wheel 21st Feb 2015 05:03

DCA/R44/31 Prohibition of Flight - C016-7 Main Rotor Blades

Aerozepplin 21st Feb 2015 05:21

Cheers. Technology issues on my old android.

I note its only about half the fleet, those with -7 blades. I imagine CASA will be considering something? After the weekend of course...

framer 21st Feb 2015 08:15

Serious stuff.
What does the dollar have to do with this?

fencehopper 21st Feb 2015 08:19

I'm sure the AU industry won't wait till Monday to check and take action.

Flying Binghi 21st Feb 2015 08:19

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/552...torblades.html

jas24zzk 21st Feb 2015 09:26

CASA in due attention to its charter will not DISCRIMINATE.

Don't be surprised when this useless bunch of Flogs ground the whole fleet. :ugh:

Lookleft 21st Feb 2015 20:17

Well done jas, thats exactly what they have done. There was something similar a while back regarding delamination of the MRB.

Eddie Dean 21st Feb 2015 20:27

The whole fleet has not been grounded. Only those with -7 blades for replacement of those blades. One flight to maintenance facility allowed

Lookleft 21st Feb 2015 21:41

My apologies I misread this part of the ABC report:


CASA spokesman Peter Gibson said there are up to 400 of these helicopters registered in Australia, making it the second most common helicopter type in the country.

Eddie Dean 21st Feb 2015 23:31

Don't be surprised when this useless bunch of Flogs ground the whole fleet

Seems to be de rigueur for this site, to make puerile comments about the regulator no matter what it does.

Lookleft, the Main Rotor blade issue is ongoing with the Robbie Crapacopter.


Double spaced for Creampuff

Reunion Bird 22nd Feb 2015 13:01

Replacement of -7 blades won't be easy since these are the only ones that RHC sales now.

OzBob 22nd Feb 2015 20:40

It's not hard from the pic of this crack in the blade, to see why the grounding is in place;
Airworthiness Directive AD/R44/24 has been issued (PDF document)
http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_asset...44/R44-024.pdf

Mr & Mrs Rocketboots 24th Feb 2015 01:46

Emergency AD lifted in NZ
 
Robinson helicopters back in the air | Stuff.co.nz

jas24zzk 24th Feb 2015 09:21

and this just cost the industry how much?

aldee 24th Feb 2015 15:59

Damned if they do, damned if they don't jas

Grounding didn't cost any lives which I assume was the intention

jas24zzk 25th Feb 2015 09:31

Whilst I agree Aldee,
it clearly shows itself as a knee jerk reaction.

How many other countries issued an AD grounding the -7 fleet?

Maybe better handled as a Service Bulletin, bringing awareness to the potential problem, and getting people to pay more attention, with an AD maybe pending.

Not saying CAANZ and CASA were wrong in their decisions, but they certainly weren't 100% wrong either..... Just a poorly handled response to an active investigation's observation......its too early to even declare it a finding.

Eddie Dean 26th Feb 2015 04:51


Just a poorly handled response to an active investigation's observation......its too early to even declare it a finding.
Don't follow this logic.
The initial inspections seemed to show the blade cracked in similar place as the previous incident, and you feel the regulator shouldn't have issued an emergency AD.
If you had knowledge of the long term issues of the crapacopter MR blades perhaps you may think otherwise

jas24zzk 26th Feb 2015 09:49

The logic is that its a knee jerk reaction, with little to no thought on industry impact, given that it was a blanket grounding of -7 blades.

Say for instance your wok wok was re-equipped with brand new blades last week..and suddenly its grounded?? Cracking is a fatigue issue is it not? Fatigue comes from use.

The AD as presented, from my memory of reading it, made no reference to time in service, it was blanket, regardless of time in service.

I'm just saying it could have been better handled with a Mandatory Service Bulletin with information of the area deemed critical....i.e INTENSE preflight inspection req'd in the area of X from the hub.....
Certain time in life could have been dealt with by the rule of get it to the LAME.

Lots of options available beyond a blanket grounding AD.


You are correct Aldee, a life saved....be a shame if one parted company on the ferry flight.

Cheers Guys

yr right 27th Feb 2015 08:24

Trouble is if you make it an S/B then you address it as an S/B if it an


AD then its addressed as an AD and has to be compiled with, and if you just put -7 blades on then you get pro rata back from the manufacture.


And not cracking may or may not be via fatigue at all. There may or may not be a problem in the manufacture of the blades.


Simple ground the aircraft with the blades end of story simple and most cost affective way of dealing with the problem


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