slippery Pete.

Jetstar is simply a copy of what BA did in 98 when it started GO. The "master stroke" was simply copying somebody else's succes. The difference is GO was a success. So much so Easyjet bought it.

Pilotchute

GO was a success in the same way that Jetstar has been a success. The only difference is that once Ayling left BA they started getting rid of the various cancers he had created. GO was cannibalising BA's short-haul business and bleeding their balance sheet. I think anyone in BA at the time will tell you that getting rid of GO was, along with getting out of AirLib and Deutsche BA, their saviour.

Sure Babara Cassani and the 3i folk made a cool wedge on the way through but it was the best thing BA did to steady the ship.

Well Stanwell. Nope, nothing from you thanks, but don't think there's anything in your posts that puts you into the oracle category..but I was just being flippant and trying to add a bit of humour to a post that's just got too serious..including stuff from you!!!

Well, it's just that I and indeed a number of others, have a problem with people who deliberately misrepresent themselves for monetary gain and self-advancement.
It demonstrates a lack of journalistic ethics and integrity.


Otherwise, I agree - he is a joke.

The pros/cons of Jetstar aren't really for this thread. Although any idiot can see that Jetstar has essentially cannibalised and made unprofitable its parent company.

My main point was GT, who promoted the CEOs Dixon and Joyce as geniuses with the starting and growing of Jetstar, was finally on the receiving end of the race to the bottom.

His lounge lacking liquorice must have been a real wake up call. Perhaps he will change his position now re: Qantas management.

The fact that the genius Joyce made a 2.8 billion dollar loss last FY must not have been obvious enough.

Some chronically deluded, bitter and twisted people on this thread.


Ok, Stanwell, just when and how has GT done this?

Look, FGD..
I you're unable to sort the wheat from the chaff of all the posts on this thread to date, then I'm not going to take you by the hand and show you.

That's quite an accusation you've made there, Stanwell, and as I suspected, you can't substantiate it.

Yep, BA sold Go to easy jet, which has totally destroyed BA short haul.

Better to own the genie and grow it at your pace, than sell it off, or gift the market to a competitor who won't grow it at your pace.

If Jetstar were not there, Virgin would be a lot bigger and still a LCC or tiger would be Jetstar. There would still be the same amount of frames in the market, Qantas would just own less of them. There would be more pressure on Qantas lowering its cost base to meet virgin as a low cost carrier. At least Jetstar gives you that buffer.

Similarly FGD you have not as yet substantiated your claim as to why the GT authored "book" titled Qantas Flightpaths moved you to such an extent that it gave you "an enormous respect for the man." In that book there are some extraordinary claims about the way Jetstar Asia was going to have an enormous upside for Qantas! Clearly his ability to forecast the future was not what generated that respect?

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What a load of old cobblers. BA didn't sell it to Easy, it sold to 3i who sold it to Easy some time later. As to the rest of your hypothesis, it is simply wrong. If you price the back end of the a/c the right way you don't need a separate entity to gradually reverse engineer your business and ultimately eat you.

Which is why easy jet is now killing ba on narrow bodies.

Jetstar is the right thing for qantas. Only the qantas employees can't see it.

More silence from FGD. He must be either Googling or phoning Alan so he can get an answer to Looklefts question!

FGD/GT/whatever alphabet letter you use - you are a complete knob.