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TBM-Legend 28th Nov 2014 10:05

Pussies!
 

.....hiding behind Nick Xylophone..:p

chimbu warrior 28th Nov 2014 11:06

I'm no pussy....nor puppy.....but if it is intersecting runways that they are concerned about (LAHSO I presume) then surely the greatest risk of collision is on the ground rather than in the air?

Either way, I hope it never occurs.

kaz3g 28th Nov 2014 11:10

A go around due strong cross winds is the risk they appear to be focused on.

Kaz

Arnold E 28th Nov 2014 11:14


Pussies!
You really are a legend aren't you? :ugh:

Jabawocky 28th Nov 2014 11:32


The practice is banned in most parts of the world, but permitted in Australia, the United States and Canada.

But there are strict conditions governing when a pilot is allowed to land on a runway that intersects another that is in use.
Well perhaps the rest of the world is not capable of it, but if us the yanks and Canadians can do it……it can't be that bad surely!

jas24zzk 28th Nov 2014 11:44

ABC gutter trash...


Cross winds have to be less than 20 knots and tail winds less than 5 knots.
My brief re-read of the rules, is that this part is dictated by the manufacturers POH, including demonstrated Xwind and performance data, closely followed by the operators handbooks and policy, at all times decided by the Pilot in command. Dang, I am ticketed on lighties with a better Xwind componant than this purported.

Greg Hood should have told em to get stuffed until they get a clue.

YMML cross runway ops have operated for years without seperation incidents. LAHSO is more risky, but the traffic levels see to it that LAHSO is rarely used.

This ABC left wing crap is saying the controllers cannot do their job and need further regulation.

Truth is, the ABC can't do their job and need another funding cut!

le Pingouin 28th Nov 2014 12:37

jas24zzk, which bit do you object to? The general rule for LAHSO is 20 and 5. Surely the more adverse the conditions the higher the chance of a go-around and the greater the risk of a collision.

The article is saying nothing about controllers and everything about rules. The whole intention of such general rules is to operate well within the normal capabilities of any aircraft likely to be involved to minimise the risk.

You have an unusual definition of "rarely". It'd be a rare week we don't use it at some stage.

Methinks you need to go easy on the LNP anti-ABC Kool-Aid. It should carry a health warning as it rots the brain.

Squawk7700 28th Nov 2014 19:04

Maybe they could spend some of the billions they make from car parks on another new runway. Would pay for it in no time.

thorn bird 28th Nov 2014 19:27

"Maybe they could spend some of the billions they make from car parks on another new runway"

Not much left after paying Mc Bank management fees and directors bonuses mate, hell there's not even enough left to pay any tax.
Guess they have to pay tax in the Bahamas...oh yeah tax free zone aint it.:}


rutan around 28th Nov 2014 20:04


Truth is, the ABC can't do their job and need another funding cut!
Great idea Jaz. We can all see how wonderfully that approach has worked with commercial radio and TV.

Oh that the ABC could produce balanced and informative commentary such as that produced by brilliant and even-handed experts like Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt. :yuk:

All that we'll be left with is 'A Current Affair' and shows like Big Brother and The Farmer Finds a Wife (if he hasn't found one yet). Average IQ of viewers of these shows is about 25, isn't it? Maybe Today Tonight can do a survey.

topdrop 28th Nov 2014 23:09

jas24zzk,
Your statement about crosswinds shows a complete lack of comprehension of the increased risk of collision due go round in LAHSO operations. Perhaps you got it from Mr Bolt.

Towering Q 29th Nov 2014 06:14


This ABC left wing crap...
So, Mel Clarke reports on a Senate Hearing, featuring Senator Nick Xenophon and Air Services Australia's Greg Hood, provides relevant quotes and researched facts in an impartial manner....and it's "left wing crap?":ugh:

What a bizarre world you live in.

4 Holer 29th Nov 2014 06:43

Wake up down there on the Island go see how the grown ups do it and get ATC lessons in LHR/ATL/JFK/ORD/DFW.....


Inquiry, report, tribunal another report recommendation then Government change repeat all over again nothing happens, this is why Australia is an Island as all Islands are backward...

currawong 29th Nov 2014 06:46

Misleading thread title...:(

Pinky the pilot 29th Nov 2014 11:01


Misleading thread title...
Quite so, currawong. I thought it was about Cats!:confused::E


Taily; This one's going nowhere fast!

Horatio Leafblower 29th Nov 2014 11:23


Wake up down there on the Island go see how the grown ups do it and get ATC lessons in LHR/ATL/JFK/ORD/DFW.....


Inquiry, report, tribunal another report recommendation then Government change repeat all over again nothing happens, this is why Australia is an Island as all Islands are backward...
So, so true and so bloody sad.

In every endeavour Banana Island is choking itself in brown tape and bureaucracy and taxes and fees and public servants and...

...If you fly into New York, how many SIDs/STARs/etc are published?
...if you fly into Melbourne or Perth, how many pages of crap are published?

This has nothing to do with Left/right wing crap, it has everything to do with the sheep-like character that typifies Australians in the 21st Century.

We are being manipulated by major corporations and media outlets and the average Aussie doesn't have a clue and doesn't give a ****.



....what was this thread about again? :mad:

NURSE!

le Pingouin 29th Nov 2014 11:39

Sigh. Get off the "they don't don't do it in XXXX (substitute favourite major overseas aerodrome) so why should we here?" horse already. Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, they don't because they can't due to traffic levels and airspace structure?

We keep getting told the airlines like it this way so where are you coming from?

sprocket check 30th Nov 2014 09:46

To quote Ren and Stimpy:

"EEDIOTS TO THE LEFT OF ME, EEEDIOTS TO THE RIGHT OF ME, AAAAGGGHHHHH EEEEDIOTS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!"

Yep. The thread has gone to the dogs.

As has the country, for the most part. The number of people happy to accept the crap dished out to them is phenomenal.

Arnold E 30th Nov 2014 11:17


This ABC left wing crap
Tell me EXACTLY what is LEFT WING crap.
Dont hold back, but I want to know What is LEFT WING only, nothing else.

Arnold E 30th Nov 2014 11:21


Taily; This one's going nowhere fast!
Then dont read it, simple. ( I cant do the mearkats squeak ) maybe only applicable to SA


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