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Nose_Wheel 27th Nov 2014 09:28

RAIM failure?
 
1/ Was wondering if anyone has ever gone to compute RAIM and had it fail? From what I understand in the days gone by with limited GPS coverage it was possible but now highly unlikely.


2/ Has anyone had RAIM issues whilst conducting an approach?

Ultralights 27th Nov 2014 09:32

yes, and No.

Nose_Wheel 27th Nov 2014 09:34

yes.....




when and where?

Jabawocky 27th Nov 2014 09:41

Nosey,

That ought to be the least of your failure worries :E

No and no is my answer. :ok:

Nose_Wheel 27th Nov 2014 09:54

Just planning for the next one..... and did a bit of research and looks like a very small possibility and if it does occur a very small window of time.

Ultralights 27th Nov 2014 10:05

yes, about half way between Bindook, and Camden in NSW, at night, about 6 months ago..

717tech 27th Nov 2014 11:33

Yes and yes, luckily it was VMC so of no consequence.

50 50 27th Nov 2014 13:10

Have had GPS lose reception entirely, but low level along the coast, so perhaps some terrain shielding, North of Batemans Bay. Only for 5 minutes or so.

WillieTheWimp 27th Nov 2014 20:21

Yes, did a raim prediction before using on a GPS arrival. Computed that raim wasn't available. Ended up being vmc below LSA anyway so the steps weren't required, however the GPS continued to perform normally the entire time.

Doubt you can fly low enough to have terrain shielding when it comes to GPS. Never heard of that reducing GPS navigation accuracy. Have a look at the Queenstown approach charts. You would have to be flying in a tunnel for that to be an issue.

empacher48 27th Nov 2014 20:57

Yes, plenty of times..

Napier, Palmerston North, Queenstown, New Plymouth, Invercargill.

Just to name a few from this side of the ditch.

Howard Hughes 27th Nov 2014 22:37

Yes and yes, but it has been sometime since I have experienced either!:ok:

bentleg 28th Nov 2014 00:13

Yes on approach to YWOL a few years ago (in VMC)

underfire 28th Nov 2014 01:06

If you plan on using a GPS approach, you are required to do a RAIM check as part of filing the flight plan. There are prediction sites for the airport as well as enroute.
It is especially important at certain locations along the equator and in mountainous area, especially in China and others.

RAIM prediction for enroute will predict how many sats will be available. In reality you need a minimum of 6 sats for navigation. So the prediction will let you know how many are estimated for the final approach and enroute.
Depending on your level required during flight, you may have RAIM failures and have to go to a higher level, or disco the procedure.

Have seen many flights NA into areas of China due to RAIM check on dispatch.


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