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slackie 17th Jul 2014 21:40

Who is "aviation expert" Peter Clark??
 
Everytime there is an aviation item in the NZ news the media's "go to guy" is a chap by the name of Peter Clark who they refer to as an "aviation expert". None of his commentary suggests that he IS an expert, but just some guy with some hairbrained ideas.

What is his background?
What are his qualifications?
Who are his sources (apart from the obvious chat rooms, international news websites, and bulletin boards/forums)??

Perhaps he reads this forum?? If you do maybe you'd like to enlighten us??

I, personally, am very suspitious of anyone who states... "the fact is..." a mere hour or two after an incident.... certainly his "facts" with respect to MH370 were wildly inaccurate and pretty much wholy unsubstantiated... and this appears also the case with MH17.

I can understand the media wanting comment and being frustrated by all the ACTUAL experts saying "well, there are no facts that have come to light so I'm unwilling to comment", or "let's wait for the results of the investigation", or "I'm unwilling to speculate" etc, but why do they then feel the need to get some talking head to tell some tall stories????:ugh:

VH-XXX 17th Jul 2014 22:04

We have a similar guy in Australia too... He also has his own thread :ok:

mattyj 17th Jul 2014 22:04

The New Zealand "Geoff Thomas" :ugh:

luckyluke 17th Jul 2014 22:11

I have wondered the same. Pulled this blurb off Linked IN



Aviation Commentator
Peter Clark Freelance
January 1995 – Present (19 years 7 months) Auckland

Aviation Commentator to New Zealand and International Media on aviation issues.
Currently help with news, feature writing and photography with NZ Aviation News.
Contributor to TravelMemo on line.
Some contributions to Flight International.
Have published my own book, Flying.
Have been a feature writer and photograper for Pacific Wings for some 15 years
Have had a private Pilots Licence, with over 300 hours in command of light aircraft.
And:


Peter Clark's Summary

Leading Aviation Commentator in New Zealand.
Have a current knowledge of Boeing, Airbus, ATR and other aviation aircraft and products.
An in depth understanding of aviation in New Zealand the Pacific and with many other countries
I have a strong interest in aviation safety and the well being of the safe future of aviation.

tail wheel 17th Jul 2014 22:16

Google is your friend!

Peter Clark, Leading Aviation Commentator in New Zealand

PPL, 300 hours.

Jabawocky 17th Jul 2014 22:16

I think it is a confusion of the Swiss Cheese model and aviation.

Peter Clark is a cheese expert. :}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOkyvYqN0XE

slackie 17th Jul 2014 22:23

I wonder what knowledge he has of Boeing, Airbus, and ATR aircraft. How many PPLs with 300hrs have flown them (other than on their FlightSim at home!). Maybe he's been a pax in each! He obviously hasn't flown with Eagle or Air Nelson otherwise he'd have further knowledge of Beechcraft and Dash aircraft!!

What an idiot!

tail wheel 17th Jul 2014 22:26

Wrong Peter Clark Jabba.

This one:


slackie 17th Jul 2014 22:37

I think I prefer the Coon Cheeze one!

BO0M 17th Jul 2014 23:23

Same guy many moons ago that went on TV saying a Convair that crashed was scud running up the Ohakea coastline. Oh course we all know what actually happened.

There are plenty of reporters in NZ that have substantial aviation experience that could speak with a higher level of accuracy than this guy.

VH-XXX 18th Jul 2014 00:10

There's the cheese guy and then there's Peter Russel Clarke too....

fortybelow 18th Jul 2014 00:23

Slight thread drift, but from memory the guy who said the Convair crash was caused by scud running was not Peter Clarke, but was his "predecessor", a real piece of work he was. I believe he passed away due from something unpleasant so will not disparage the deceased.

Without defending the talking heads that the media love to run to who are generally unqualified to comment (which never stops them), I had Peter on the jump-seat one dark night many moons ago and he was actually a really nice guy, with some interesting stories to tell to pass the time.

As an aside to Boom, what was the cause of the Convair crash that "we all know what happened"? PM me if you like.

There is/was substantial disagreement with the official report. Out of respect to the crew and their families I won't reopen a topic which most have forgotten.

Jabawocky 18th Jul 2014 01:10


Wrong Peter Clark Jabba.
I knew that….but the other one is funnier! :}

Ex FSO GRIFFO 18th Jul 2014 01:12

And John Clarke........of 'Clarke and Dawe'......

aka 'Fred Dagg'......

Prefer them, actually.... :p

tartare 18th Jul 2014 02:35

He is also a former TVNZ sound recordist.
That's why One News run to him for comment - because they are lazy and they know him.
Air New Zealand also feed him stuff, to get `independent' third party comment.
Well known for the Air Nelson - `I helped land the plane' incident. ;)

Water Wings 18th Jul 2014 02:43

Peter Clark is a talking head who loves inserting himself into a story whenever the slack New Zealand media are too lazy to actually go and find a real expert.


I can immediately off hand think of two PhD's much more suited to providing factual information but why would you want someone with qualifications and published research in the area when Peter Clark will answer the phone at 6am in the morning?

NoseGear 18th Jul 2014 03:06

Full of the brown stuff
 
When I read in the Herald that he said "I'm led to believe that the [Malaysian] plane was deviating because of weather conditions," I knew he was crapping on blindly, and totally without accuracy, as I was about 300 miles south of MH17 on a parallel track across the Black Sea, FL330, at the same time and heard ATC calling on guard for MH17. The weather yesterday in the area was fine with a few CBs here and there, nothing that would require any more than 20NM off track. Another aircraft requested wx deviation but was told to go opposite to their request, because, and I quote ATC, "due to the shooting". We looked at each other but thought nothing of it, my own thoughts as we were south of Crimea was someone was lobbing artillery shells or there was a live fire Danger area activated.

And this pearler of enlightenment.....

"We spend millions of dollars on security and screening processes for the people down the back, and all these other things around aviation affect aviation safety. It's a tragedy for the industry,"
he said. Yes, SAM's do tend to have a negative affect on airline safety...:ugh::hmm:

Why on earth the media can't find a retired Airline or military type that has actual aviation experience, I'll never know. His musings are an embarrassment to the industry.

Desert Flower 18th Jul 2014 03:26


We have a similar guy in Australia too... He also has his own thread
Been waiting to see that one on TV giving his expert opinion on what happened! ;)

DF.

Terrorhawk81 18th Jul 2014 05:51

What a plonker this guys is!

Mach E Avelli 18th Jul 2014 06:11

On both sides of the ditch we seem to have these 'experts' whose sole aviation qualification is a PPL and a few hundred hours.
Contrast this with the Yanks, whose public aviation commentators are usually either ex airline or ex military and in some cases even ex NASA.


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