Whats a QF sim ride worth per hour?
 

Hey guys,

I attended a charity auction some time ago and bid an extraordinary amount of money on a 2 hour QF Sim ride out at Melbourne. Alcohol may have played a part.

I've never actually seen one advertised for sale so have no idea if there is a "retail value" for such a thing but the fine people at the ATO tell me I can claim a deduction for what I paid above the "retail value"

Anybody know what they go out at? It's 2 hours in the 738 sim.

Cheers,
AB

This website suggests a two hour experience is worth $1499.

Thanks Keg. Much appreciated!

In 1980, 2 beers at a local pub

One located in Melbourne as well, Western suburbs (near the airport but not Tulla) can't think of the name but am sure Google will turn it up.

Was looking at it 2 weeks ago.

You can do my next one for free instead of me if you like.

Yeah that's the one I've got - out in Airport West. I forked out well above the $1499 for it, but it was for a bloody good cause so I've got no qualms with that. Just want to make sure I can claim the tax for the right amount.

More than happy to. You just might have some problems with ongoing employment afterwards

CAPTAIN GDAY

Apart from Will Anderson's and Adam Spencer's joke about Delta, Philipousis and Paris, that is the best Ive ever heard. Maybe not so to others, but hit my funny bone directly.

The Delta joke? Well I'd have to PM you that one

The 738 sim at Airport West is $250 per hour with a 40% discount for ALAEA members.

Is that what QANTAS charges you to service it? :E

The QF 738 sim only $250 hr before 40% off??? Even if that's after discount it's still way too cheap.....sorry Fed Sec but that's a ridiculous price....

El cheapo Sims at Moorabbin are that price!! MFS synthetic flight trainer is $250 hr

Must be a fixed base ( no motion ) price?

You should clarify your post.

That is for the fixed motion "toy" sim on Keilor Rd, Niddrie. Basically a retail, Flight Experience clone. Not the full motion QF sims in the training centre on Matthews Ave.

Oh, come on now. Talking about a fuel guzzling old technology aircraft with slats would be perfectly acceptable on this forum.

I'm guessing your talking about one of those cheap fixed based flight experience type things.

Still, if it was that cheap I'd be in for a hell of a better refund!

Are you talking about how much it is worth, or how much it costs, two different things.

Most sims I've had anything to do with retail (to operators) at around 6-700/hr.
If you are doing an endorsement off your own bat this seems to rocket up to well over $1000 an hour (based on 10 sessions shared with another victim at $35k)

And Trev, agree, that was very funny as was airbumps reply :ok:

To clarify what is available. There are two major Level D Boeing 737 full flight simulators (meaning they have six axis of motion) in the Melbourne area. While these are primarily for airline pilot type rating, command instrument rating tests and recurrent training, both are often used for flight experience trips. One is at the Qantas Flight Simulator complex in Matthews Avenue opposite Essendon Airport which is part of the suburb Airport West. The second is Ansett Aviation Training in Garden Drive, suburb of Tullamarine, off Mickleham Road.


There are other flight experience synthetic ground trainers around which are mock-ups of the 737 NG. These do not have motion. One is in Bourke Street in the CBD and another in Keilor Rd, Niddrie near the junction of Matthews Avenue and Keilor Rd. There may be others of similar design and situated at Moorabbin? Obviously the price for an hour flight experience varies, depending how realistic you want and on which devices you can afford.

It depends on the customer relationship you hold with Qantas.

In 2004, the 747-200 sim was charged out at around $120 per hour for pilot recruiting to its subsidiaries (peppercorn rate). As was the 767-200 and 300 sims in later years.

I ran a few workmates through the Cathay sim profile in the 747-200 privately, and was charged $150 per hour, but I was staff. Same went for the 767-300 configured for the Virgin (sic) profile.

Typically, the internal running cost to the company for the newer sims is around $600 per hour.

On top of that you will pay the cost of the instructor, plus whatever their margin on the sim is.

Hope this helps.

Bumps has landed at Tulla in the middle of the night, should be able to pull it off :E

Never heard of QF sims being used for flight experience type stuff, and there is no way a level D sim would be charged out to the public at flight experience rates (circa 300/hr).
I have heard of QF sims being used for fear of flying courses tho, totally different thing.