You Calll Yourselves Pilots
 

You're more like children that have to be babied & molly coddled. And you've got the hide to whinge about a 2 hour AFR :ugh:

I watched 2 aircraft have an airprox today, several radio calls were made to both aircraft with a traffic alert issued. Neither of them listening on Centre. One of them then flew through a drop zone, guess what? No call on the CTAF. Unprofessional, zero airmanship. Joke. Thing is, happens every single shift. IFR aircraft departing aerodromes squawking 1200, Air Ambulance aircraft in taxi calls requesting traffic & code, no mention of runway or POB.

If I did any of that when I was learning to fly or god forbid, in an AFR.......FAIL. The standards are pathetic. No longer will I advocate for a decent award, you're only worth what you are getting paid, in some cases, nothing.

It's a joke really. Perhaps, just perhaps the pilot that did the AFR actually needed 2 hours to complete it before being considered as competent. And they'd be the most likely to whinge about it, rather than cop it on the chin. :ugh:

Mate, I tell all my trainees 'Pilots are stupid'...and thats from 19 years in this business. You can't account for it, you just have to expect it.

Dumb as dogsh!t. And that's being generous.

just maybe if we had a simple set of rules like there was back in the 70's without the total embuggerance of a casa creating a quicksand of rules changes, an air services rebroadcasting everything on one frequency, then maybe it'd be different.

I really have no idea what this whole thing is about. I did an AFR last week and it took 0.6, the pilot left happy and I was satisfied that I had done the right thing. Today I signed out another AFR and it was the completion of three sorties over three weeks of 1.1, 1.0. And 0.7. The pilot left happy and I was satisfied i had done the right thing.

Somewhere between the two I did another of about 1.3 and the pilot was over the moon with what she learnt and requested a bit more dual at a later date.

A while back I did another AFR and informed the pilot that some dual instruction would be needed before i would consider another AFR request. He left unhappy and I never saw him again. Can't please everyone i guess but I was also satisfied.

Mate, as if the guys earning the bare award are the ones out here bitching about things.

.6 ? Doesn't the CAAP say 1.0 ?

Old gripe, but once instructors are actually paid what it is worth to keep someone with a bit of dedication to the task, we might be able to keep some experience in this side of the trade and see some standards improving.:D

At the moment, bare minimum CPL's with no more intent than to get the minimum hours needed to apply for Jetstar are out there are still teaching circuits that incorporate 3 mile final legs, radio calls on every leg of the circuit, no thought to what's behind them on runups...:ugh::mad:

No problems with developing someone who wants to learn the trade, after all, we all had to start somewhere, but once again, if you aren't going to put 100% effort into where you're doing, don't bother!:yuk:

Was one of these aircraft a major Aussie airline by any chance Jack?

Nup, low level.

Was it near Euroa?

You take good care of us, Jack. I was amongst one of those traffic alerts about 18 months ago between Bendigo and Lethbridge and I was the only one of four who responded on the radio. The other day "you" gave traffic info with guessed intent to the drop zone at Euroa nearby - I was the traffic so confirmed my intent.
On the other hand, with the (small, I hope) number of mistakes that I make from time to time then others might say that I was dumb or incompetent at the time, hopefully I get it right next time or at least make different errors.

XXX .6 was probably vdo log book 1.0 to comply

I rest my case. If it is too hard for your simple brain to comprehend, stay on the ground.

Don't worry Jack, I'm still calling "maintaining" on transfer...

Agree with Hempy, this stuff isn't hard boys.

G'day dj, I'm only asking that VFR listen out on the area frequency! That's all it takes to avoid these situations. It's not much fun watching radar paints point at each other, merge..........and wait for them to come out the other side. Neither of them monitoring, really, how hard is it to look at a map?

The 'mistakes' that you speak of are not mistakes, they're good airmanship to speak up :D (if I was half the pilot you are, I'd be a happy man :ok:) The real mistakes are to just not give a crap, press 'direct to' and blunder through CTAF's without any regard for others.

We are there to deliver a service, makes it difficult if folk don't give a rats. Haven't even got the brains to turn the transponder off if they're going to behave in that fashion. Then again they probably don't know how to turn it off.

Bloggs, do you hear the 'request traffic & code' calls in WA?

Go ahead

Copied no traffic

Standing by

"Time 26":ugh:

Pending clearance