Jetstar hiring?
 

It would seem things have slowed right down. Anyone got news on what the future holds?

If you knew anything about the airline industry it has always gone in peaks and troughs. There has never been a flat line in recruiting. More like a sine curve...

Expationary periods and retirement cycles dictate the ups and the economy and other factors can dictate the downs..

new hires in the past have not known their base or country until day 1 of induction. mustve been keen.

you might jag it, but i wouldnt count on it. make it known in your application that your pref is nz.

nz command spots have been filled from aus in the past, but not always and lately aus pilots have been specifically excluded from applying. no rhyme or reason

Whats the go with this flexi line thing?

If you are employed in AUS are you full-time straight away?

Can anyone comment on the first year salary for direct entry FO after the endorsement cost has been taken out?

Cheers

last i remember the company/unions have agreed to cap X% on flexi

new hire fo goes on flexi, most senior flexi fo gets full time if he wants it.

1st year pay? sfa. although some of the darwin guys i think made a killing there for a bit working days off out of the companys unrivalled ability to outsmart itself. not sure if that still goes on much

ring afap for the details on flexi

My understanding is that new Jetstar Cadet hires start as full-time so that their line training is more cohesive.

After that they go on flex contracts for some months until they go full-time again.

I've been told at upto 10% pilots can be on flex contracts.

Also heard that due slowing growth and a relatively young pool of pilots that Jetstar hiring will be thin for a while.

The former Cadets I've met who are now flying for Jetatar seem quite happy and positive about their situation.

Why on earth would people leave a full-time paying job, only to go onto some flexi crap?

Flexi pay and having to pay for your own endorsement! Yeah great company!!

From what I've heard there are no more than 10% of Jetstar pilots on flex contracts and the hours on the flex contracts are something like 3/4 of the full-time load.

The Jetstar Cadets and junior DE pilots seems to get loans for endorsements which are paid back later as salary sacrifice. Not ideal, but not that bad and it seems like a pretty standard deal for other airlines too.

If you wait around for another airline to pay for your initial endorsement my guess is that you'd spend the next twenty years driving taxis while your mates are driving jets.

Waren9, oz pilots have been excluded from applying to NZ commands as it was part of the recently negotiated contract improvement. Whilst there are suitably qualified NZ FO's no commands will be advertised elsewhere! Seems fair to me, not like the NZ FO's can apply for EBA commands :)

well there you go. there is rhyme or reason. seems fair enough to me too.

infact thats better than the aus pilots have got. look at all the dec's over perfectly qualified fo's the last several years. mou aside

peterc005,

I know I have been hearing that argument for a long time. Pity is been dragged this far 'up' the industry.

Fear, the simplest method of controlling the masses.

I started as an Accountant back in the day. No one else paid any of my education expenses for my initial degree.

Why do aspiring airline pilots have this expectation?

Peter, traditionally in Australia pilots have paid for their training up until gaining commercial pilots licence (defence forces and some of the early cadets schemes aside). Much like most graduates in recent decades have paid for their initial degree.
However in most industries where a company requires a specific skill set (like flying a jet), those companies will either hire suitably qualified applicants or provide training (in-house where possible) for the employee.
A very good reason for in-house training is the quality control over the outcome of the training. Something that is sorely missing in most LCCs where you can buy your endorsement from the cheapest provider.
The issue these days is prospective employees are not chosen on ability or experience, they are chosen on financial grounds.
It's a race to the bottom or 'worlds best practice' in your accounting terms.

By the way, there is no such thing as a former cadet (just ask a few cadets from the 60's or Keg).

Jetstar hiring?
 

Peter did someone say that airlines should pay for initial cpl ticket? No.

All this crap about paying 40k to sit in the classroom and simulator for a few hours is getting out of hand. You don't even get to fly the aircraft anymore.

Heard on radio 6PR this arvo, that J* has been fined $90K for 'unlawfully deducting part pay' of cadet pilots, for pilot training, in contravention of workplace laws...

GOOD!

Cheers :ok::ok:

For info....Dupe of another thread....just posted in airline forum...