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barleyhi 17th Nov 2013 12:46

Delayed till September 2014

thunderbird five 17th Nov 2013 17:59

HOT OFF THE PRESS:

Reports to hand confirm the fact that no more facts can, or will, be confirmed at this time. However, at a date soon to be announced, more unconfirmed reports will be denied, which should put an end to all the rumours circulating at the moment.






:E

harrowing 18th Nov 2013 01:09

thunderbird five
Some clarity at last.

Horatio Leafblower 18th Nov 2013 01:27

With breathless excitement I rang several contacts in CAsA only to find that Thunderbird Five has the scoop. :ugh:

morno 18th Nov 2013 01:32

What a complete, utter disgustingly waste of both time and money CASA has spent on all of this. Only to can it literally 3 weeks before it's due to start.

Surely there's got to be some heads on the chopping board over this?

Pissed off.

morno

PhilKenSebben 18th Nov 2013 04:00

Not that they probably knew any more but I called CLARC today about getting a re-print done and in passing they mentioned that all the regulation changes are going ahead. So who knows what is happening.

Clare Prop 18th Nov 2013 05:26

Great, all systems were pretty much in place, new students expected to go solo after Dec 4th told no need to apply and pay for student licences and ASICs so I suppose all that will change and all that time I had to close my office for two days to listen to stuff about doing flight tests for licences and ratings in aircraft I don't even have was a massive waste of time. Perhaps I should send whoever has made this decision an invoice for 2 days of billable time at a PDP. :mad::mad::mad:

I was pretty happy with it all, it is a system I have worked with overseas and makes a lot of sense, the backup from local CASA guy was good. I was forwarded letters from other operators which I couldn't agree with about how the sky was going to fall down and I must write to this and that person and be a dinosaur too. Thanks guys for stuffing it up for people who were just quietly getting on with it and now have to undo all that work. Also another year before we can start marketing flying holidays for overseas pilots again. :mad::mad::mad:

roundsounds 18th Nov 2013 06:16

Part 61 - Special Pilot Licence
 
Clare Prop - couldn't agree more! Am assembling a business - now need to decide whether to go AOC and convert to 141 or wait it out!!

Ex FSO GRIFFO 18th Nov 2013 06:22

Next time I'll put the "Good News" in inverted commas......
Sorry guys and gals.....

At the time of posting, it was fairly well 'hot off the press'.....
:ugh:

Horatio Leafblower 18th Nov 2013 07:28

I have received nothing official confirming this - does anyone have it from CASA?

There is nothing on the CASA website or the Minister's website. :confused:

None of my CASA contacts have been able to confirm either :ugh:

Jabawocky 18th Nov 2013 07:46

So my guess of

I am not 100% sure, but I think the fact will be not a snowflakes chance in hell on a hot summers day.

Is that a good enough prediction?
.....has proven correct?

Sorry Griffo...I did not see your post above the one I was replying to.

I wonder what will happen next. :rolleyes:

If anyone can get a tip through to Warren Truss can someone tell hime Jaba reckons sub the lot out to the Kiwi's.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 18th Nov 2013 08:34

A M E N ! ! ! To that, Mr J.....

:cool:

Clare Prop 18th Nov 2013 09:02

I had an email from CASA today saying it was all set to go, a minute later I got one forwarded from a Bankstown operator rejoicing that it had been "deferred" to September 2014. WTF? No references to any official word from CASA though.

The implemetation time is so long already, there WAS industry consultation, we were just waiting for the MOS to finalise the exposition.

If this is the case I hope they will let those of us who got ready and took all that time off to go to PDPs etc instead of playing "ain't it awful" the chance to implement what we have done, or reimburse us for our time spent on this, yeah right. :mad:

BPA 18th Nov 2013 09:12

Nothing from CASA as the government might have done the old CASA trick and issued them with the big no by FAX at 5pm.

Horatio Leafblower 18th Nov 2013 10:14

CONFIRMED

My source within CASA has got back to me and it is confirmed, although it ain't official until the Minister announces it on Thursday.

...lots of red tape to jump backwards through hoops aparrently. At last, now the regulator knows how the industry feels.

Clare Prop I can't agree that the whole thing was good to go. Although my school has now wasted hundreds of hours reviewing legislation, if the CASA FOIs can't tell me how it will work, and if FTEs are almost in tears after PDPs saying "I just can't see how it will work, we need another 12 months", mate it just isn't good to go.

9 months might give your competitors time to catch up, yes, but that's a level playing field... ennit? :O

roundsounds 18th Nov 2013 20:05

Part 61 - Special Pilot Licence
 
For any doubters, you can ring Warren Truss' Canberra office for confirmation the regs will be postponed - as I did.

I predict we will hear the same doomsday rubbish we're hearing today when the regs do go live. The industry thrives on rumours and word of mouth rather than reading the actual regs.

Clare has obviously worked through the new regs, understands them and the positives they will bring to the industry.

I am yet to read / hear of any negatives in part 61,141,142. If you think these are bad, then charter operators need to read part 119!

seneca208 18th Nov 2013 20:52

What does this mean for ATPLs I wonder?

air-bender 18th Nov 2013 21:42

YES!!! ATPL's
 
I'm 2 exams complete for my FAA ATPL conversion... (Still have Human Factors exam to do)...

Does this mean that I now have until September 2014 to get to Australia and get my Human Factors Exam finished??

Looking for answers.

just a dumb pilot 18th Nov 2013 22:59

Part 61 Delayed
 
http://www.australianflying.com.au/news/part-61-reforms-postponed
Surely not just a day after the Senate hearings.
:=

VH-XXX 18th Nov 2013 23:40

As reported by Horatio yesterday in the other thread:

http://www.pprune.org/pacific-genera...licence-2.html


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