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tail wheel 2nd Oct 2013 20:06

Hi Beachie

Was going to drop into the apothecary the other day but ran short of time.


"They were lucky to escape with the injuries they got - it is very rugged bushland out there," he said.
I would have thought you'd be rather unlucky to hit a patch of "rugged bushland" around Cunnamulla, especially now in the drought.

Apparently the Adavale Copper booked Peter Beattie's wife many years ago and found himself posted to Adavale. The Mayor at Quilpie assures me it is fact that he booked his own wife for driving without a seat belt.

Propstop 2nd Oct 2013 21:51

I am sure matrimonial bliss would have been put on hold after booking your own wife. Hope the dog did not mind the company.:E

Sunfish 2nd Oct 2013 22:31

Tailwheel:


There is something highly comical about a harmless grey nomad being pulled over on the Landsborough Highway, miles from civilisation, to be confronted by Sgt Plod in full riot gear, pistol, Tazer, Pepper Spray, batton, three pistol magazines, handcuffs, two way radio and a few other odds and ends, all attached to a flack jacket. I couldn't help myself:
My son is a policeman and that is exactly what he wears at times. However it isn't funny anymore. There is a class of drugs - Methamphetamines that make people do real bad stuff, out of your mind stuff, and the police have no idea from one minute to the next what someone they engage will actually do.

....And that includes seemingly harmless grey nomads.

There are a variety of things they are trained to do and number one is self preservation. Don't ever do something that might scare a policeman or you will end up very dead. All that pepper spray, Tazer and shooting to wound stuff is only going to happen if the policeman thinks he or she has time to do that stuff without compromising their own safety.

onetrack 3rd Oct 2013 01:54

As a bloke with 4 cops in my wifes family (from Supt FIL, through to Sen./Sgt BIL, Detective and Snr/Const. Nephews), I can back up what Sunfish says.

I have even witnessed a bloke high on Meths climbing the 2.5M high wire mesh fence of my workshop yard, with 3 sizeable coppers hanging off him, spraying him with pepper spray and belting him with truncheons - all without the slightest effect.

When he was finally subdued by 5 coppers and eventually came around in a hospital bed, he had no knowledge of anything he's done in the previous two days - which was a rampage of violence and robberies that occupied quite a number of coppers, and traumatised a lot of people.
Meths is bad stuff - along with a number of newer drugs that give people superhuman strength - and all these drugs give people a massive spurt that keeps them high, and going without sleep for 2 or 3 days, or sometimes even more.

I've pulled a semi-comatose bloke out of a car after he ran into a parked car - and he'd taken LSD and gone for a drive!! :rolleyes: He wasn't capable of stringing two words together, and how he managed to even drive, is beyond me.

Then there's always that small group of people who are consumed with a total murderous hatred of anyone in a blue uniform, and who will carry a firearm with the sole intention of killing anyone in blue who pulls them up.
There's quite a list of "fallen police" who have met their fate at the hands of these people without any warning whatsoever.

The final angle is, that pulling up a car that has indulged in obvious traffic offences is very often an indicator that a criminal is behind the wheel.
On regular occasions, traffic stops for minor offences result in drugs & firearms being found, persons wanted on bench warrants, unregistered drivers, or drivers high on drugs, or just plain drunk.

A policemans lot is not a happy one, and the last job I'd want, is wearing a blue uniform and approaching complete strangers inside their mobile cage of protective steel, without the slightest idea of their mental state. :(


Wally - I've often wondered what it does to your shattered nerves, to be hauled, injured, out of a SE aircraft wreckage - only to be placed into another SE aircraft, to go for another ride!! :) I trust they give you a good dose of sedatives!! :)

Howard Hughes 3rd Oct 2013 05:36


Wally - I've often wondered what it does to your shattered nerves, to be hauled, injured, out of a SE aircraft wreckage - only to be placed into another SE aircraft, to go for another ride!! I trust they give you a good dose of sedatives!!
I hope they give them to the pilot too, poor blokes (ettes)! ;)

Desert Flower 3rd Oct 2013 06:12


Wally - I've often wondered what it does to your shattered nerves, to be hauled, injured, out of a SE aircraft wreckage - only to be placed into another SE aircraft, to go for another ride!! I trust they give you a good dose of sedatives!!
No different to being hauled, injured, from a car crash & being put into an ambulance!

DF.

Guptar 3rd Oct 2013 08:07

Two comments

If your aircraft has a certain endurance, shouldn't you plan to land at least 45 mins before said endurance.

If you are going to fly NVFR, shouldn't your aircraft be in NVFR category as well?

Just asking, and no inference is made.......however the accident report will be interesting. Just some talk going around.

Fantome 3rd Oct 2013 09:34

Won't buy into the night single engine debate .. . . it has been covered and covered a thousand times. You either chance it or you don't. Whenever it made me feel nervous I'd take a deep breath and think of Lindbergh's 1927 solo trans-Atlantic flight. (The Wright J5 . . . what a donk.)

Cops transferred to the outback . . well one of the best was the one about the late Russ Hinze, Queensland police minister, who was pulled over by a cycle cop when driving home down the Gold Coast Highway one day. Cop had no idea who the man was heaving his huge bulk out of the Fairlane. Hinze gets out with the Queensland map in his paw. He spreads the map over the bonnet and gestures north - south down the guts of Queensland. "There you are son. You pick. Anywhere west of that line."

When Frank Delaney was the NSW police commissioner he was heading home down Anzac Parade one evening when a sprog motorcycle cop pulled him over.
Cop gets off bike, walks back, slowly and deliberately pulling off his gauntlets.
Puts his head down to the driver's window and says -

"So where's the f u c k in g fire driver?"

Delaney equally slowly and deliberately pulls out his wallet and shows the cop his ID -

"I'd say in my office, constable . . . . nine o'clock on monday morning."


There's another choice one about the cop out near Yarrawonga recently who chased a newly imported Chevvy convertible with LH drive. Too long to tell now, but if you know Muzza at Echuca, (Stearman etc) , he'll tell you.

Creampuff 3rd Oct 2013 09:48

And all those stories are manifestations of the fact that governments across Australia have been rotten to the core for a long time. :ok:

Fantome 3rd Oct 2013 09:59

well there's no arguing that there are, shining their bums, and have been, some pretty piss poor people voted into parliament . . . . .but for all the doom and gloom. . . let us remember the shining lights who all their lives put the best interests of the nation before their own.

Avgas172 3rd Oct 2013 10:09


"I guess they were very lucky to land."
Taking off is optional, Landing is mandatory ... :E

VH-XXX 3rd Oct 2013 10:31


If you are going to fly NVFR, shouldn't your aircraft be in NVFR category as well?
I flew that aircraft a few years back. It was fitted with the standard gear for that model which I believe includes NVFR when it left the factory. The only thing it would potentially be missing would be a VOR which would have hardly contributed to engine failure.

BEACH KING 3rd Oct 2013 10:48


That's not thread drift! I kin show you some thread drift- hey Beachie, how did the enduro go? Was heading out to it when a local offered me access to his property north of CV so went there and killed stuff instead. Trust you enjoyed the TL trip too?

Back to SE prang at CMU - then a SE aircraft went and picked them up in the middle of the night to take them to the big smoke hospital!
G'day Jamair! It was great to make your acquaintance the other day, and I hope you enjoyed your time out here. Enduro went great. There were many tired riders after 3 hours on a very gnarly track.
TL was very dry (and hot), and the ATC were very friendly and helpful (even dispatched a "follow me" car to show me a good place to tie down!). Apart from weaving around a line of storms on the way home, the trip was great. Caught me 2 brilliant parrot fish at Magnetic Is. :ok:

Ex FSO GRIFFO 3rd Oct 2013 14:28

So, now we have the hint of a suggestion of maybe a little too much air in the tanks.....?? Guptar?

That lights normal! 5th Oct 2013 01:01

Sharks and Pilots....
 

So, now we have the hint of a suggestion of maybe a little too much air in the tanks.....?? Guptar?
What's wrong with you idiots?
Why say this stuff with not even a shred of reason or evidence?

According to the pilot there was 2 hrs fuel on board when the engine stopped.

Desert Flower 5th Oct 2013 03:32


Why say this stuff with not even a shred of reason or evidence?
Because that's what most if not all of us think as the likely cause in cases like this - even if we don't say it out loud!

DF.

Jabawocky 5th Oct 2013 07:43

Beachie......didn't the FTDK offer you some hanger space?

Not like he gets much use of it any more :E

BEACH KING 5th Oct 2013 09:32

Tried to give the Forked one a ring to maybe catch up for a beer.. however he must have changed his number, as I got a seductive sounding young lady who thought I was a bit forward in mentioning her fork :ooh:

Mish A 8th Oct 2013 04:45

Have a close friend that's returned to the thin blue line while he waits to find a use for his CPL.

Apparently the jobs have some similarities. Risk management, team work, legal interpretation and making command decisions are some of them.

Bounceferret 24th Mar 2014 09:04

Report (if you can call it that) is out.

Can someone remind me how many hours it takes to fly from Lilydale to Cunnamulla in a PA-28?
I'm going with 3 as the 'pilot' says there was 2 hours remaining onboard at the time of incident................:confused:

Unless the AC had new long ranges tanks fitted few mins before departure?


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