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Sunfish 22nd Sep 2013 20:16

iPhone, iPad Users - Do not uprgade to iOS7!
 
I saw the user interface for iOS7 on a friends iPhone and it is crap - all eye candy that is actually slower to use than the previous system and harder to read. It is also more computing power intensive so it needs an iPhone 5 to run fast. This is not a pilot friendly operating system.

Basically Apple have decided to animate every function and icon on the phone to make it "cool". However coolness is a relevant to a tool like a phone as it is to a wood saw.

If Apple continues down the "coolness" road then they will become irrelevant very fast.

Message to Shagpile: I hope there is an Android version of Ozrunways coming, because Apple is going down the same "coolness" road that destroyed the Motorola flip phone as a professionals tool.

Mr.Buzzy 22nd Sep 2013 21:02

Jeez Henny Penny, relax.

My experience has been the total opposite to yours (ipad 2, iphone 4)

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Volumex 22nd Sep 2013 21:13

That explains why it is chewing through the battery way faster than the old version - and taking far longer to recharge.

compressor stall 22nd Sep 2013 21:43

I think that's pretty unfair criticism Sunfish. Mine's working fine on the iPhone 5. No discernable change in battery life.

I haven't upgraded the iPad yet until I know jepp will run ok.

VH-XXX 22nd Sep 2013 21:47

Mine are also fine, storm in a teacup Sunny. I've got 2x IPad minis, second gen iPad, iPhone 4S and the mrs has a 5... All good and everyone else I know. The only reason not to upgrade right now would be because of a couple of small OZRunways issues.

Skywagon1915 22nd Sep 2013 21:57

I0S7
 
I changed my I-5 on Saturday and suddenly my battery was flat after about 3 hours. I found that the Bluetooth was on, brightness was at full bright and the torch light was full on and stayed on. So sort them out and check other settings, as some of them altered in the upgrade. Also to switch off all the active apps, the process is completely different, you need them off regularly to increase battery life also. Know how to do that ?

Plazbot 22nd Sep 2013 21:58

No probs here too. iPad mini. Battery was worse day one until I realised it turned all location services and Bluetooth. Turned them off and no difference. Icons look cartoony if that is a word bother wise, no need for a tin foil hat.

Ultralights 22nd Sep 2013 21:59

flew yesterday with Ipad running IO7, both Ozrunways and Avplan worked fine. took a little tweaking to get the ipad to connect to the garmin GLO duel gps receiver though.

Bevan666 22nd Sep 2013 22:07

I've been flying a bit with iOS 7 and haven't had an issue. Havent noticed a difference with battery life (on my iPhone 5 I thought it was actually better than it was before!)

Don't quite know what all the fuss is about?

Bevan..

Fizzzzzer 22nd Sep 2013 22:21

iPhone, iPad Users - Do not uprgade to iOS7!
 
Skywagon1915

Double click on Power Button (like before) and flick every open app upwards

peterc005 22nd Sep 2013 23:41

iOS 7 is working fine on my iPhone 5.

It's quite a bit different, but better once you figure out how the changes work.

It has better multi-threading and appears faster to me.

C206driver 22nd Sep 2013 23:43

iOS7=georeference in JeppFD=:)

(iPad 4 here)

point76 22nd Sep 2013 23:47

Closing Apps
 
Thanks for that.So easy and best way to extend battery life.

morno 22nd Sep 2013 23:51

Not sure what you're on about Sunny. iOS7 appears to work fine on both my iPhone 4 and iPad Mini.

The 5S should be delivered by courier tomorrow I hope, :ok:.

morno

Derfred 23rd Sep 2013 01:17

I've never seen any evidence that closing apps increases battery life. Background processing in iOS is very limited.

FerrypilotDK 23rd Sep 2013 03:10

Jepp OK
 
I haven't upgraded the iPad yet until I know jepp will run ok.

I have two iPhones and 2 iPads. I did the upgrade on one iPhone first.....checked everything. Then I did the other phone and the iPads.

If batteries are running down quicker, check that the Bluetooth is off. Other wise, I find everything running faster and Jepp works just fine. The clock function, the control panel and the photo changes are all improvements.

Ja....there are a couple things that were....."now how does that work?" moments, but in general, after playing for only a couple hours, it is a good interface.

Moving with 4 finger swipes between open apps is really good! No more home button, look for the ikon and open, I can just switch between Numbers and a mail message with the data I need.....great time saver.

have fun!

FerrypilotDK 23rd Sep 2013 03:16

I've never seen any evidence that closing apps increases battery life. Background processing in iOS is very limited.




There is a neat App called "Battery Doctor," which will give you a listing of which Apps are running, the remaining battery life and what closing an App will contribute to extending battery life. Right now, it seems that iOS 7 has increased my battery life!

nitpicker330 23rd Sep 2013 07:13

Got the 5s and it's really a big improvement. No issues at all here.

Updated the iPad2 and apart from a couple of issues with Goodreader and Ozrunways it too is ok.

Con_G 23rd Sep 2013 07:37

Same experience here. Ipad mini running ozrunways worked fine for a 3 hour flight yesterday plus flight planning the night before. Can't comment on battery life because the mini is only used for aviation stuff and sits on charge the rest of the time.

Buttscratcher 23rd Sep 2013 22:49

Is there a way to hide the left toolbar in Jepps' airport charts like before?

Capt Claret 23rd Sep 2013 23:13

iPhone 5, iPad IV, iPad mini, all running iOS7. Casual observation shows that Jeppesen (whole App data) loaded more quickly than iOS6. A couple of Apps not updated to iOS7 yet, but otherwise, all good.

Dexta 23rd Sep 2013 23:17

I had some issues with OzRunways on both the iPad2 and iPad mini, in flight planning I would select a point and select set origin of plan and it would crash every time. I could load an existing plan but not start a new one. In the end I deleted OzRunways completely, reloaded, re-downloaded all maps and now it is fine!

Kodachrome 25th Sep 2013 13:01

Haha Sunfish you're like my mother when I was a kid using 'cool' in a very derogatory sense.

"Do you think it's 'cool' to smoke?" (jokes on her, I knew it was)

Kelly Slater 25th Sep 2013 23:07

My Jeppesen Flight Deck no longer updates the enroute weather, turbulence, winds aloft etc. This is coincident with installing OS7. To confirm that this is an OS7 problem can anyone running OS6 confirm that they can still update the weather and anyone running OS7 confirm that they cannot.

In typical fashion, just after I posted the above message, I tried again and all is working. It was still out of action for a few days and so I wonder if anyone else experienced this.

Buttscratcher 26th Sep 2013 05:24

Still can't hide the toolbar
Makes the airport charts smaller than before
Bummed out, man!

wheels up 26th Sep 2013 05:32

I have iphone 4 and IOS7 is crp. Noticeably slower and scrolling is now jerky - and functions such as airdrop don't work on iPhone 4. Would go back to IOS 5 if I could.

flywatcher 26th Sep 2013 07:19

Crashes every time I select a point of origin for a flight plan. Everything else seems OK

Howard Hughes 26th Sep 2013 07:55


Basically Apple have decided to animate every function and icon on the phone to make it "cool". However coolness is a relevant to a tool like a phone as it is to a wood saw.

If Apple continues down the "coolness" road then they will become irrelevant very fast.
Isn't 'cool' the market segment Apple has always pitched at? Hence the reason to always keep updating to the latest and greatest?

C206driver 27th Sep 2013 10:04

iOS 7.0.2
 
Well that wasn't long...
Apparently a fix to stop screen lock-bypass

Just N Cider 30th Sep 2013 21:24

Why not downgrade back to OS6

The files are available on the internet.

Download and "restore" back to this file

peterc005 30th Sep 2013 23:49

iOS 7 is fine and iOS 7.0.2 has been released.

It's a bit different and a little awkward the first day, but iOS 7 is a good improvement.

Walter Atkinson 1st Oct 2013 00:35

Running OS 7.0.2. No problems on an old, out of date, antiquated iPhone 4. Everything is working like it should. Battery life is good. All APPs working.

I cannot confirm the problems offered by others.

mikedreamer787 1st Oct 2013 01:36

Thanks for the heads up Sunfish. I just bought another
iPad 2 and an iphone 3 (both costing next to nothing)
and was about to upgrade both their respective OS's
when I read your post.

Never had a problem with either Jepp TC and FD on
iPad2.

oriental flyer 24th Oct 2013 09:28

Problems with IOS 7
 
If you are having problems with IOS 7 especially typing try the following go to
Settings Icloud turn off Documents and Data
Then go to Settings General Accessibility turn increase contrast on

If all else fails reset all settings that seems to work

Good luck and yes IOS 7 is junk on older equipment

RetiredTooEarly 23rd Nov 2013 06:07

BRIGHTNESS - BRIGHTNESS - BRIGHTNESS
 
Turn it down as much as possible and your battery usage will improve very significantly.

The only downside is you won't be able to reheat soup on the back of the iPad anymore!

Avgas172 23rd Nov 2013 08:52

brightness ... Auto off & approx 1/3 bright ..... Done!

Berealgetreal 23rd Nov 2013 15:35

I have iphone 4 and it runs like crap now. Ran perfectly before.
Mrs has 4s and it seems to run fine with it.
Ipad2 runs like its from Microsoft now. Freezes crashes etc.

Basically since Steve Jobs passed away apple have lost the plot. Ios7 ultimately is complete and utter rubbish. I kind of feel sometimes like going in the apple store and hitting an apple employee over the head with my frozen screen ipad.

Wandering 25th Nov 2013 20:51

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