Ahh, the old argument whether a single is safer than a twin.

Give me two engines any day. Even if not the most reliable, the chances of both snuffing it on the one flight (assuming good fuel and enough of it) are remote.

Even if single engine performance results in a slight descent, I like the idea of one remaining power-plant prolonging flight for longer than is the case when a single has a failure. With a legal full load, the old 150 and 160 hp Apaches did not stay aloft very convincingly on one engine, but for all that did not have too bad a safety record.

Pilots will surely kill themselves in this thing, but Charles Darwin would probably have his way with these people eventually anyway.

What about the single engine handling at the 9m:30s mark where the passenger claps his hands?

Can't comment on the engines, I've no experience of them but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I don't think it looks that bad.

I'll join you on the limb Freddie, so long as you ain't pissed on the tree before I climb it ...

I think it looks pretty cool, Jabbies are great trainers and tough as nails, this little puppy may just make a good twin engined trainer :hmm:

Not a bad concept, just a prick of a position for the engines in that they look like they would cut off all your forward visibility down and to the sides. Apart from that, might be OK if it's got reasonable performance on one and a bit of range.

The 4 cylinder Jabs usually sip around 13-15 lph / maybe more. Based on the speeds and RPM on this test flight, around 20lph for the both of them combined might be achievable with circa 135 litres standard in the wet wings. @125 knots perhaps. Probably less fuel than a single 120HP J430.


It's not the first time two Jabiru engines have been used on the same aircraft.... (there's one of these at Tyabb)

http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/fo...0_pelican2.jpg

Christ is this now a forum for the most ugliest machine to take flight with 2 donks?:) Looks like it's mother got slapped just b4 birth:}
Man really hasn't ventured far since Wilbur & Orville started this whole mess in the looks department:-)


Wmk2

Dornier 28 Sky Servant STOL
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._d2_sky_01.jpg

From all accounts, that Dornier was a good machine, let down somewhat by poor (American) engines.
Now, if Jabiru offer a tail-wheel version of their fugly twin, what a great combination for training it would be. Teach pilots proper ground handling and the basics of twin flying all in one package.

If you are tired of looking at ugly have a squiz at this:

http://www.aopa.org/-/media/Images/A...640&h=329&as=1

How about a fixed gear, fixed pitch twin with gear and pitch controls? Ain't she a beauty! :yuk:
The Lancer. the Light Twin that Wasn?t | Aircraft Market Place

hahaha thanks for that link WD :ok:

Always enjoy finding yet another aircraft type I never knew existed. An interesting heap of **** ;)

Beauty is...
 

in the eye of the beholder.
IMO it looks cheeky and spiffy.

Well done those Seff Efriken guys, Rod and others ...who looked well outside the box for a terrific and simple solution to a complex problem. :ok:

I admit some concern at the "test flight" style...but there you go, worked well for them.

May the new Jabbajabba prosper.!! :ok:

The Gods must be crazy anyone?

Refer to my post #17 :ok:

For those that haven't seen this "classic" movie, do yourself a favour.

Just on a side note here as the word 'ugly' can only be described so much b4 it becomes known fact (see twin Jaba for EG) & the story ends:)

I wonder who'd be brave (or stupid enuf) to do what young Ryan has done recently (fly round the globe solo) in a Jabiru..................now that person if they survived would be a hero of magnanimous proportions:}
Ryan's recent result shows that the Yanks can build some pretty reliable brutal donks!:-)


Wmk2

Worldrounder.
 

Do it in a Jabiru...why not. Been done in a Victa 115*, AA Trainer 100? and other assorted 'smallies' J Johansson's global jaunts spent huge amounts of time over water,too.
With the Jab, route planning would be the prob re range, I guess. Might have to circumvent the Pacific via Kamkatcha and Alaska.

NO GPS and all the goodies either in the 'good old days" and I can attest that clock, compass, map, ruler and pencil still works.

*If I remember his story correctly, the Victa got shipped Japan to Canada.

And the AA guy Tholstrup? had just got his PPL in it, and off he went !

Bravo all those of adventurous bent.!:ok:

Now who will lend me a Jabby...and a bucket of $$$s:ok:

'aroa' yes it has been done in small planes but what power plant was up front of them? NOT a jaba donk that's 4 sure, that's where the 'bloody brave' part comes in, the jaba airframe is just ugly, doesn't mean it wouldn't make the trip other than perhaps scaring off the natives in far flung countries!:}:E

Flying around the world these days is no big deal anymore, there's a long list of 'Earthrounders' seems as long as you have the funding, a slight shift of yr "cheese on yr crackers" & yr off!:-)


Wmk2

That only happened because the Russians wouldn't give him permission to land to refuel at Petropavlosk on the way from Japan to the Aleutian Islands

The look of the Jab twin was growing on me until I re-watched the video and spotted the rear of the engine cowls with the big gaping hole. Looks a bit untidy. Some re-designed streamline engine cowls would go a long way to enhancing the beauty.

Just thinking about $$. A Rotax 914 which is required to power a J430 including required CSU is approximately $40k plus fitting. This kit should retail at around $35k plus labour at a rough guess.