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peterc005 17th Jun 2014 03:25

@Alex3008 - I think two years for completion is possible, but a lot of it comes down to motivation and being organised.

Generally the mature-age students with some aviation experience do better than schools leavers because they able to focus better.

My suggestion is to try and do at least your BAK and maybe PPL theory exams before you start. You'd get Recognition for Prior Learning (RPL) and would save time and fees.

I've known a lot of people who've been through the Swinburne courses and have a favourable impression, although I've heard that a combination of the OAA/CAE ownership changes and too many students means it can be a bit disorganised and requires push to get through.

One problem with all integrated courses is that people run out of funding before completion because the training takes longer than the curriculum. My suggestion is be organised and do as much pre-preparation as possible to get thru in the minimum time.

A lot of the aviation training experience depends on the individual instructors, and this is universal across all schools. If you are not happy with progress with one instructor, try a different one. One thing I like about RMIT is that students generally have one primary and a secondary instructor, which should make the training more cohesive.

I've been encouraging Junior to do his IREX and ATPL theory with Lionel Taylor at Moorabbin to save on fees and broaden his experience.

JustJoinedToSearch 17th Jun 2014 03:31

Why don't you push junior to self study the IREX and ATPLs?

Saves even more cost, teaches him an important life skill and really, they aren't that difficult.

David Eyre 19th Jun 2014 04:53

Best flight training company at Jandakot?
 
Hi All,

A friend of mine is looking into undertaking his PPL and maybe a CPL at Jandakot.

There are a number of operators there, such as Royal Aero Club of WA, Air Australia International, ACFT, Thunderbird Aviation Academy, Jandakot Flight Centre, but I'm seeking recommendations on which is the best.

Also, does it matter much if the company uses older-technology aircraft?

I've tried searching the forum regarding this, but the search function seems to be faulty at the moment.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,
David

cptkris 19th Jun 2014 05:02

I trained at Air Australia in 2008-2009. Im now a first officer with air new zealand. I think the key is that you get a good instructor and work really really hard. I can definitely recommend them.
Chuck runs a tight ship and the planes are not the newest but certainly kept at a tidy safe standard!


Cheerio,
Kris

ddoth 19th Jun 2014 05:12

Few people I know, including myself, have been through Minovation.

Instruct very well and teach you about how to find information (ie. can you fly over square on CSU equipped planes).

That's my recommendation anyways :).

Bograt 19th Jun 2014 08:09

ACFT
 
Recommended. PM me for more details.

Eddie Bauer 19th Jun 2014 11:55

On the topic of jandakot flight schools, is Phoenix aviation still about or have they become something else? I started my PPL there around 11-12 years ago but never completed it due to work taking me away.
Rod Jarrold was my instructor back then. Nice bloke who was a good instructor. It did get a little cramped with both of us in the aircraft though and could never take a full load of fuel!

crescoboy 17th Jul 2014 11:56

Aus & NZ Pilots. What to do?
 
Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster.

Im just wondering what to do from here :rolleyes:. Currently living in Perth, originally from NZ. I was a loader driver in Ag Ops back in NZ, was dead set on becoming an Ag Pilot since the age of 5. Went through my flight training etc, came back to loading and then witnessed a crash off the end of the strip where I lost one of my best mates. Just thought I'd fill you in on that to stop the guys who would normally say "well you should have done some research on the aviation industry before getting into it". Ag is no longer for me, as much as I've tried to get over that :mad:

Anyway. I've got 300TT. Have just done my multi. Tried getting into survery work but the companies I have talked to all have their fleet on the ground as no one is doing any exploration.

Im pretty keen to get into skydiving. Originally from Taupo, so to end up there dropping meatbombs would be ideal, I guess as a stepping stone before getting into a multi somehow and then on to Eagle etc. Pretty sure thats the only option ultimately.

Just looking for some advice as to where to go from here. My non-aviation related job is finishing up in october. Do I move home to NZ to try suss some work or best to stick here? Perth doesn't seem to offer much as Im not an instructor.

Any help is appreciated.

Happy landings.

Crescoboy :ok:

deadcut 18th Jul 2014 03:06

Crescoboy
 
Have you thought of staying and heading up north? Its the wrong time of year but if you make the move you might be able to pick something up next year.

I am from NZ too but want to go back now after a few years here as prospects in Australia are looking dim. One thing for sure is that the opportunities for low pilots in Australia are much better than NZ.

luckyluke 20th Jul 2014 01:17

Crescoboy

If entry level work is drying/dried up other there why not come back and try get a gig meatbombing at one of the smaller outfits over here learn the trade then have a go at getting work in Taupo once you got a little more time in the book?

flying139 12th Aug 2014 08:54

Darwin Job opportunities?
 
Just after some advice if it is worthwhile searching around Darwin this time of year with a fresh CPL? Any advice on this subject will be much appreciated.


hadagutful 13th Aug 2014 06:19

Same old same old......
 
Wouldn't mind a dollar for every time this question has been asked!! :
A fresh CPL.......can I have a go at answering, go up there and join the far queue. Seriously, check on all the previous posts or take a lovely holiday up there and do some snooping around.
Great time of the year now.

Lasiorhinus 14th Aug 2014 02:59

It will be more worthwhile than staying on the Gold Coast.

The "hiring season" is largely confined to history, operators take pilots as they need them, whenever they need them. Darwin does not get quiet over the wet season, though perhaps the scenic operators out in Kakadu aren't doing quite as many scenics.

You're not going to get hired unless you are in Darwin, so that it of itself makes it worthwhile going up.

StormAir 31st Aug 2014 04:29

Coffs Harbour and Newcastle
 
Hey guys,

I've been thinking about flying for quite some time and I've decided that I'm going to commit next year to it. I was just wondering about where to do my training. I have 2 options that would really suit me. The first is in Coffs Harbour, as I will be living with parents I would be able to fly more regularly but I feel Newcastle would be a better place to learn, but because I'll be living out of home I would be flying a little less frequent. Just wondering on your thought of each place and what would be a better option.

Thanks

L.A.S 4th Sep 2014 11:30

I'd recommend Redcliffe Aero Club. Just finished my training there, nice place to live, plenty of work around (non flying of course lol) plus great blokes and machines.
As a regular visitor to Coffs, there's nothing there...

Fly43dom 11th Oct 2014 08:59

CASA ATPL flight test
 
Hi guys.

Need some advice on the new CASA part 61 ATPL flight test.

How does 1 go about getting an ATPL with the new part 61 ATPL flight test? If im not flying a high-performance multi-crew aircraft but has just met the hours for the ATPL.

Does anyone know which training organisation in Aus can conduct the new CASA ATPL flight test? Can you do it in say a Boeing 737 flight simulator during type rating conversion? other than doing it in a real high performance turbine aircraft?

Appreciate any help.

Cheers :)

Humbly Reserved 30th Oct 2014 15:42

Purpose of the ATPL FLT TEST
 
Best advice I've heard from someone:

Only get the ATPL when you physically need it. Most airlines and major operations with T&C will conduct their own flight test (in approved facility and of course examiner) So theres no rush to get it until your in a company and have worked the time to upgrade to a command position anyway...

I've heard that two people have thus far taken the test both were successful prospective command upgrades with two operators (one was a charter company) both supervised by CASA (both in the operators sims) and it was no different than a standard instrument renewal with a few questions tagged on the front (both were very lenient on KDR's) as the box on test form says "tester must be satisfied knowledge is adequate for issue of licence" etc etc which means you'll be asked relevant operational questions (none of where is the best FL for a B727 BS....

Ads25 5th Nov 2014 09:40

Hey Mick
You seem like the person I would want to work for!
I'm busy door knocking around QLD at the moment, will head up North if nothing happens here.

If you need a hard working, eager to learn pilot, I would appreciate a pm :)

Otherwise back on the hunt tomorrow!

PyroTek 12th Dec 2014 04:18

That's a great resource, evilducky! Good work!:ok:

iPahlot 12th Dec 2014 08:16

Evil Duckie.

Nice map.

Some changes / additions.

Chartair - will take green pilots
Savannah - has been known to take newbies, but generally only newbies that have passed through Bob Harris

Kakadu Air Tours / Sky Air Safari (Jabiru, Darwin) - ~ 400TT plus

Broome Aviation - Will take newbies, also looking for experienced van drivers last time I heard

GSL Aviation (Airlie Beach, Cairns) - will take green / lower hour pilots

Skydive the Beach - bit of the right attitude and a caravan endo might land you a job at any one of their numerous bases

Shoal Air - has been know to take newbies

Bunbury Aeroclub - always advertising for instructors


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