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ForkTailedDrKiller 2nd Jul 2014 06:54


This incident brought home for me the truth of something that I was told by one of the ex RAAF pilots out at Temora. His view was that the most dangerous time for pilots is between 400 hours IC and 1000 hours. Over 400 hours and you think you are on top of your game and are therefore prepared to do things that you perhaps wouldn't have before then. It takes you till 1000 hours before you learn just how many things can go wrong. You're either lucky and make it through or unlucky and don't.

Pilot had 600 hours or so.

With just a few less than that, I know I am a beginner but I also know that I have become more bold than I was before. I will be thinking about this poor guy and his family and taking extra caution for the next 400 hours or so.
So true - I had 525 hrs when I orchestrated the bit of stupidity detailed above! :eek:

aroa 2nd Jul 2014 07:26

250 hrs....
 
Tony m3...and new CPLs are turned lose at low hours and little real world experience. No wonder they go off and in some cases, kill a few people...paying passengers at that !!

While there may be instances of LUCK...ie yr engine crapped out within gliding distance of a nice airfield...t'aint always the case.

In yr very early days one is IGNORANT..I know I was. because I hadnt yet had the experiences/frights/practical lessons on how not to feature in The Crash Comic
Some CPLs I once new never got that far, tragically.

My view....
If lessons learned and noted, one might pass thru the 'dangerous/ ignorant' phase and later enter the dangerous/knowlegeable phase. Done it before. too easy.

Been there done that, and moved on to a later phase which was researched in the USA. Older pilots, with good hours, owner/operators, having had a good run thus far become complacent and some unknown will pop up and bite hard.

The old Air Safety Digest was THE great educator for me. Read and digest OK, because if you dont heed the lessons of others, the earth may smite thee...wrongly.
CFIT is a case in point. How many have done it, how many have read about those that did it , and how many will go out and do it ? !!:mad:

My VFR mantra was ...know yr machine and all its foibles and KNOW thy weather. And fly with the ultimate aim of NOT to feature in the Crash Comic.:ok:
Fly safe y'all.

Tankengine 2nd Jul 2014 07:53

Dubbleyew eight:
You are so right. LEDs would be the go these days. :ok:
I grew up with flare pots, took hours to fill them up with kero, drive down the strip with the trailer and put them out, do flight planning and briefing then down the strip again and light them. Do the navex and wonder how many are still lit when you get back, or how many acres burned out!:eek:
Later I assisted in installing proper electric lights with pal. council paid luckily!
I would think it would be not too expensive to do a private strip with LEDs.

Weheka 2nd Jul 2014 08:35


The vehicle’s headlights were intended to illuminate the upwind end of the strip, facing the oncoming aircraft.
Is this a misprint, headlights facing the approaching aircraft would certainly blind him as to what was directly in front of him, i.e. trees?


A bit late getting to the chute
Seriously?

Anyway RIP and there but for the grace of God go a lot of us.

Xray Tango 2nd Jul 2014 09:15

Bad Luck
 
He'd had a fair share of bad luck in aircraft, he was just about to take possession of his 210 again after another wheels up incident, the stand in 22 was in fact for sale.

Jack Ranga 2nd Jul 2014 13:57


Anyway RIP and there but for the grace of God go a lot of us.
This little black duck won't be going that way :cool:


He'd had a fair share of bad luck in aircraft, he was just about to take possession of his 210 again after another wheels up incident
Bad luck ya reckon? :cool:

Dendrophile 3rd Jul 2014 02:57

Risk assessment
 
1
A simple Worksafe style risk assessment could help to prevent this type of tragedy.

bentleg 3rd Jul 2014 08:16

Not a good track record it seems, but not bad luck from what I have read.

Dendrophile 5th Jul 2014 09:53

I'm with Bentleg.

Pinky the pilot 6th Jul 2014 12:56

I went back to the link to try again to read the report but the computer I`m using here has a Japanese operating system (Precise Puppy; version 5.7.1 and no I`m not kidding!!:=) which for some reason when I click on any link displays the report etc in a very small font and deletes every letter I, L, and some B and A.

Makes it virtually impossible to read anything, so I still cannot make any sense of it.:ugh:


Not a good track record it seems, but not bad luck from what I have read.
bentleg; PM me about it, willya please?

Duck Pilot 6th Jul 2014 20:16

This accident was totally avoidable, very sad to read these kind of reports where people have been killed where pliots have completely ignored common sense and blaitently distrgarded the rules. I recently read another stupid report where a pilot done a beat up and hit a power line and killed himsellf in Queensland. The impacts of these kind of events where people knowingly do stupid acts in aircraft must be devastating for the families and close friends of the people involved.

This style of behaviour also puts a real negative effect on the industry that we don't deserve and certainly don't want.

dubbleyew eight 7th Jul 2014 01:30

pinky
precise puppy is a japanese version of linux

Pinky the pilot 7th Jul 2014 06:06


precise puppy is a japanese version of linux
Sorry dubbleyew eight but I don`t even know what linux is anyway. Regardless, the flamin` system won`t let me access my e-mails either!:mad:

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