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Clare Prop 5th Feb 2024 01:20

QANTAS are an issuing body!

Anything written on the back of the card is nothing to do with regulatory requirements. This word "sponsor" is not enshrined in the Act.

Yes some ground staff would have AUS ASICs but not always. They would need to prove the operational need for multiple airports.

I'm not sure where you are getting your information from but as an ASIC agent it's my job to know this stuff. And contrary to what people think, the pittance I get from each card doesn't make up for the minority of people who haven't done any of the training but think they know everything and decide to take it out on the agent. Luckily I have the option to terminate the interview with a belligerent applicant.

I've tried on this thread to explain how the system works, to dispel some of the myths. I try to make the procedure as quick and efficient as possible. That's all.


PiperCameron 5th Feb 2024 02:20


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 11590369)
QANTAS are an issuing body!

My bad - I should have re-checked the list first and picked a better example: Rex then. :)

Thank you for all you have posted here, CP. All the information I have comes from personal experience (and that of people around me) using Melbourne Airport - not an Agent. Hopefully others here find their path easier.

Roy Nolland 5th Feb 2024 02:42

As for whether you get an airport specific or AUS card comes down to the operational need. If your employer says you will be at more than one airport then there is usually no problem getting an AUS card. For pilots, the pilot licence is all that is needed.
As for multiple ASICs the only reason some people have them goes back to the days when the likes of Qantas had their name emblazoned at the bottom and didn't want their ground staff using them to for private flying activities. The Dept knew it happened, didn't like it, but couldn't do anything about it.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 5th Feb 2024 04:34


As far as I am aware, it is no longer possible to obtain multiple local ones - if for no other reason that the cost and paperwork would be seriously prohibitive!
If you work for two different companies, at two different airports, you'd need an ASIC specific to each. Neither of the individual companies are going to endorse that you require an AUS ASIC, as for each of them, you don't.

Roy Nolland 27th Mar 2024 07:05

Well it appears that Auscheck have slowed their background check clearances to something like watching an ant crawl though treacle.
Lots of aircrew, ground crew, airport staff, screeners etc all waiting for their cards. Some back as far as January.

A little bird told me that the initial delays were caused by the Women's World Cup and the need to do a securtiy check on dear old Dolly showing people to their seats and the latest delays being blamed on the ASEAN summit in Melbourne earlier this month.

Remember this is the outfit that is going to take over 100% of all ASIC issuing from 01 July 2025. I know I will be renewing my card before that date with one of the exisitng issuijng bodies.

josephfeatherweight 27th Mar 2024 09:03

Experiencing the same - started the renewal VERY early - current ASIC expires at the end of April. Given that nobody looks at it, I don't feel it will be my problem if the thing expires and I have to keep working...

BronteExperimental 27th Mar 2024 09:17

Just got my “renewal” this week.
10weeks from start to finish. Have used my expired one while I wait. Nobody cared or noticed.
A few emails along the way from the issuing body pointing the finger at someone else for the delay.
At the same time started a new job that also required a criminal record check as well. No holdups there.
Woftam all round…

lucille 27th Mar 2024 11:40

What is the point of the ASIC at any non point of entry airports?

Why does anyone need an ASIC at Birdsville, Charleville or Cunamulla?

Lead Balloon 28th Mar 2024 00:43

Terrorists might strike a blow to the heart of western democracy, via Birdsville, Charleville or Cunamulla. Obviously.

rodney rude 28th Mar 2024 07:19

And why do people who work in the non airside areas - succh as the cafes and shops, need an ASIC? They go through security like the travellers and tyhen they are just another body in the terminal.

Roy Nolland 28th Mar 2024 09:38


Originally Posted by rodney rude (Post 11625028)
And why do people who work in the non airside areas - succh as the cafes and shops, need an ASIC? They go through security like the travellers and tyhen they are just another body in the terminal.

ATSR 3.03 Requirement to display ASICs in secure areas
(1) Subject to subregulations (4), (4A) and (5), regulations 3.05 to 3.09 and subregulations 3.18(2) and 3.26(2):
(a) a person in the airside security zone of a security controlled airport must properly display a valid red ASIC; and
(b) a person in a secure area (other than the airside security zone) of such an airport must properly display either a valid red ASIC or a valid grey ASIC.
Penalty: 5 penalty units.
Note 1: The requirement in subregulation (1) applies to a person who is accessing parts of the sterile area not generally accessible to passengers or the public

Similar requirement for airline staff in the check in area

PiperCameron 29th Mar 2024 02:05


Originally Posted by rodney rude (Post 11625028)
And why do people who work in the non airside areas - succh as the cafes and shops, need an ASIC? They go through security like the travellers and tyhen they are just another body in the terminal.

That's easy. The main reasons are as follows:
(a) to make them feel more valued than the obnoxious self-loading freight they're serving, and
(b) to qualify for a Staff Discount at the other shops when they break for lunch.

Clare Prop 29th Mar 2024 03:52

The clearances are taking a lot longer than usual at the moment. This isn’t the fault of the issuing bodies so please be patient, there is no point hassling us as there is nothing we can do about it.

MalcolmReynolds 29th Mar 2024 05:33


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 11625578)
The clearances are taking a lot longer than usual at the moment. This isn’t the fault of the issuing bodies so please be patient, there is no point hassling us as there is nothing we can do about it.

Someone needs to fire a rocket up the AFP or whomever is supposed to do these checks. Should be an automatic renew taking only a few days for current ASIC holders. 🤬

Clare Prop 30th Mar 2024 11:02

Every Australian has a federal PM so contact them with your concerns, soon there will be no issuing bodies but while we are still trying to get your ASICs processed in a timely manner then please understand that the issuing bodies are not the ones who determine how long it will take . Hassling us when we have clearly told applicants not to do so and to wait until they are contacted isn’t going to make it happen any quicker. It just wastes everyone’s time.

MalcolmReynolds 30th Mar 2024 11:09


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 11626316)
Every Australian has a federal PM so contact them with your concerns, soon there will be no issuing bodies but while we are still trying to get your ASICs processed in a timely manner then please understand that the issuing bodies are not the ones who determine how long it will take . Hassling us when we have clearly told applicants not to do so and to wait until they are contacted isn’t going to make it happen any quicker. It just wastes everyone’s time.

Fark that waste of time. I’ll be operating without one then. 🤬

Capt Fathom 30th Mar 2024 12:48

Maybe if everyone said ‘stuff it’ and just didn’t bother renewing. What are they going to do? Arrest everyone! That will keep them busy.
A mate of mine had a picture of some terrorist on his ASIC. No one ever noticed. The whole thing is a waste of time and money.

red_dirt 31st Mar 2024 06:27


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 11626316)
Every Australian has a federal PM so contact them with your concerns, soon there will be no issuing bodies but while we are still trying to get your ASICs processed in a timely manner then please understand that the issuing bodies are not the ones who determine how long it will take . Hassling us when we have clearly told applicants not to do so and to wait until they are contacted isn’t going to make it happen any quicker. It just wastes everyone’s time.

or maybe the service providers can raise it with their department contacts

Clare Prop 31st Mar 2024 06:48

All you get back is "In progress with checking partners". That's why it's a waste of time trying to put pressure on the issuing bodies or complaining about it here.
Your local federal member is the one who gets paid to listen to people complaining about the government so take it up with them. Otherwise it's just a case of

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....85decb23cd.jpg



MalcolmReynolds 31st Mar 2024 10:30


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 11626708)
All you get back is "In progress with checking partners". That's why it's a waste of time trying to put pressure on the issuing bodies or complaining about it here.
Your local federal member is the one who gets paid to listen to people complaining about the government so take it up with them. Otherwise it's just a case of

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....85decb23cd.jpg

Complaining to the local member is the definition of the above. 🤬


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