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falconx 12th Mar 2013 06:05

The next one to try
 
Goldair Bendigo - Flights to Bendigo and Melbourne | Flights to and from Bendigo and Melbourne


So we all have the ego to start our own airline but no one seems to have listened.

"In aviation to make a small fortune you need to start with a large one"

PLovett 12th Mar 2013 06:23


Gold Air will be looking to expand its services to such cities as Adelaide, Sydney, Canberra, Hobart, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Mildura, once demand dictates and airport infrastructure is enhanced.
With a Bandit :eek:

'Tell 'em their dreamin' son. :(

advo-cate 12th Mar 2013 07:16

casa and the effect on commercial operations
 
Congratulations!!!! GoldAir

LETS SEE IF CASA HAVE THE "GOLDEN-ONES" TO DEAL WITH CAR 210.

CAR 209/210

Is this going to be another "One rule for one and one rule for another???

boocs 12th Mar 2013 07:23

Besides all the smart a$$ comments.... Good luck to them!!

b.

avconnection 12th Mar 2013 07:33

This article indicates a J31 Hopes for new airline in Bendigo | Bendigo Advertiser

Either way they're over the AD's 5700kg limit.

Jack Ranga 12th Mar 2013 07:37

That'll be interesting, 2 and bit hour drive to Melbourne. 25 minute flight, add dick-around time to and from airports etc, 2 and a bit hours?

compressor stall 12th Mar 2013 07:44

2 and a bit hours? More like 1:45.

Not sure what your issue is advocate. I don't see any advertising there in the article. And yes they have a website with a proposed timetable on it. Is having a website advertising?

I have no connection to them, I wish them well but can't see the demand personally

VH-XXX 12th Mar 2013 07:53

Not in peak hour my friend.

compressor stall 12th Mar 2013 08:16

Yes, but Melb airport is roughly at the start of the peak hour traffic.

So unless it's an amphib J31, you still have to get into town.

BPA 12th Mar 2013 08:17

Bandit's MTOW is 5700kg and they are the perfect aircraft for short sectors.

Jack Ranga 12th Mar 2013 10:43

And a mobile phone number? C'mon, a 1300 number costs farkall. I'm all for people having a crack but Bendigo Melbourne??

Cactusjack 12th Mar 2013 10:45

Well well falconx, surprised you are slagging the newbies. You were much more tolerant of new starter JetGo. Biased by chance?
And no, I don't have a personal interest in either outfit.

Skystar320 12th Mar 2013 11:19

Neil Hansford? Why does that name ring a bell?

falconx 12th Mar 2013 11:34

Sky star



From 5 down.


neil hansford aviation - Google Search

advo-cate 12th Mar 2013 16:10

casa and the effect on commercial operations
 
Compressor stall:


210 Restriction of advertising of commercial operations

(1) A person must not give a public notice, by newspaper advertisement, broadcast statement or any other means of public announcement, to the effect that a person is willing to undertake by use of an Australian aircraft any commercial operations if the last‑mentioned person has not obtained an Air Operator’s Certificate authorising the conduct of those operations.

Penalty: 10 penalty units.

(2) An offence against subregulation (1) is an offence of strict liability.

Note For strict liability, see section 6.1 of the Criminal Code.

and from the Oxford dictionary:


Definition of advertisement
noun
a notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event or publicizing a job vacancy: advertisements for alcoholic drinks

(advertisement for) informal a person or thing regarded as a means of recommending something: unhappy clients are not a good advertisement for the firm

Origin: late Middle English (denoting a statement calling attention to something): from Old French advertissement, from the verb advertir (see advertise)
Just a "little thing" I know, but remember Direct Air and CAR 206.

dhavillandpilot 12th Mar 2013 22:58

Rule number one when starting an small commuter airline -DONT

Rule number two - DONT

Rule number 3 - IF YOU MUST THEN ONLY FLY TO A REGION OR TOWN WHEN ROAD TRANSPORT IS NOT PRACTICAL UNDER TWO HOURS. This should be either an Island or remote location. Even then dubious returns

I wish them all the best but, the punters will always pick their car thinking the only cost is the fuel - never thinking about service and depreciation.

Ejector 13th Mar 2013 00:33

Long duty days for 1 crew.

avcraft 13th Mar 2013 00:37

Damn these tall poppies... Imagine the cheek! I suppose someone will want to build an airport near Toowoomba next...

Or... I've sent 50 applications out and no one will hire me... There's no jobs etc etc etc... Hey look someone is starting up an airline, what an idiot, that'll never work

You guy's are funny :D:D:D

Ultralights 13th Mar 2013 00:44

if this website is a snapshot, or sample of the attitude and feelings of members of the Ga aviation industry in Oz, is it any wonder its been a long downhill slide. the words "think positive" and how about doing something positive, have never once been uttered in this industry. it wont change until the attitudes of those in it change.. once the purchase of my flying school is finalised, i know where i wont be looking for future employees.

weloveseaplanes 13th Mar 2013 01:05

Best wishes to them and anyone else out there with the balls to try and build something to help others soar away from a land infested with reasonable and sane grey men who know every reason why the courageous are foolish to follow their dreams.

The trouble with aviation is airports. They of course allow all sorts of undesirables such as regulators, officials, consultants, experts, and other ill informed parasites to drive on up and paint colorful little lines everywhere to match their fluorescents vests. This has the cumulative effect of
a) driving good men out of aviation
b) year by year increasing the salaries of the ravenous officials
c) turning initially naive pilots into negative cynics

The key is of course to get rid of all the airports and bring back the flying boats. Then they'll be no shortage of positive pilots ;)


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