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mickjoebill 26th Feb 2013 01:08

Orions to be replaced with UAVS and manned aircrfat
 
ABC TV news reporting that UAVs are being considered as a viable option, along with manned aircraft for maritime monitoring to replace the Orions.

Mickjoebill

Flying Binghi 26th Feb 2013 01:10

Oh, i though we had over the horizon radar to see around Oz...

Dont work to well eh..:hmm:





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Taildragger67 26th Feb 2013 03:18

Maybe there are areas (eg. to the north-east) where JORN doesn't reach, or where some greater granularity or detail is required that JORN can't provide beyond "there's a return at xx co-ordinates travelling at 350kts at 125 degrees".

David Eyre 26th Feb 2013 04:15

Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton is the UAV being considered.

Boeing P-8A Poseidon (based on Boeing 737) is the manned aircraft.

This combination is being introduced by the US Navy.

Regards,
David

Rogan82 26th Feb 2013 08:42

P8's for war-fighting, UAV's for ISR. The concept is called BAMS. Makes sense that we follow suit as they are both designed to complement each other.

aussie027 26th Feb 2013 09:22

Yes, the BAMS concept and the P8/ Triton mix look to be a Good choice by the DMO/DOD.

it is a damn pity they cannot make good choices more often, this country has lost $ Billions in very poor choices and mismanaged projects over the past several decades. :ugh::{

Nulli Secundus 27th Feb 2013 07:32

As it appears the Orions will be replaced, could they:

  1. be fitted for fire bombing?
  2. be relatively cost effective?
  3. be sent offshore in the 'off' season?
What would a fair sale price be per airframe?


Running cost per hour? How could this work?

jas24zzk 27th Feb 2013 09:37

Nope
 
Null,
the orions have been purchased by FSA for the turbine element of their course.....


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Posiedon's augmented by Tritons. Could be a workable purchase....but hang on, so bearautwit is going to decide that they don't quite suit 'Australian Conditions', have his 6 year old re-write the spec, and the suppliers will get 10 years paid development work at which point the encumbant muppetry will decide they aren't worth the money and scrap the program. :ugh:


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