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vme 30th Jan 2013 09:55

ILS for Gladstone
 
Gas companies have combined to fund an instrument landing system for Gladstone airport. It is due to be installed by the end of the year.

New landing technology will aid Gladstone pilots in 2014 | Gladstone Observer

PLovett 30th Jan 2013 10:05

Why the heck can't Australia get WAAS? Surely it would be cheaper, could be applied to more airports and provide almost the same minima?

Oktas8 30th Jan 2013 10:20


Gas companies have combined to fund...
Who do you have in mind to fund the space based augmentation system for the Australian continent? It would be a lot more $ than one ILS (cheaper per airport, but a much bigger total investment.)

Related to that, how would the accountants get a return on their investment?

travelator 30th Jan 2013 10:31

The return on the investment would be their workers arriving and working as scheduled.

So currently there are only 2 ILSs in Queensland. :rolleyes:

When the technology is built it will be the third device of its kind to operate in Queensland.

Jabawocky 30th Jan 2013 10:32

And how will the ILS LOC equipment fit around all the railway lines etc on the other side of the fence?

Could be interesting.

Indeed, the federal government should be doing this WAAS thing for the benefit of all Australians and if the resource companies see benefit in Gladstone surely they would all see benefits everywhere else if WAAS was introduced.

Dumb lot in Cantberra. :ugh:

Ex FSO GRIFFO 30th Jan 2013 11:13

Hear Hear Jaba......

Why oh why cannot the 'Mining Tax' pay for it, and when all of those 'hardworking OZ Family' members actually arrive at WORK - 'ON TIME' the whole nation will benefit!!

So there!!!
Vote for me in September.....:p:eek:

morno 30th Jan 2013 12:13

I believe the ILS will be for runway 28. Perfect, the wind only favours that runway for about 2 days a year, :E.

morno

Flying Binghi 30th Jan 2013 12:19


...Dumb lot in Cantberra...
OH, i wouldn't go getting to attached to them GPS thingys...





http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-general-a...stralia-4.html


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VH-FTS 30th Jan 2013 22:00


I believe the ILS will be for runway 28. Perfect, the wind only favours that runway for about 2 days a year
Simple - fly the approach to the DA then circle at 300/400ft, or 1100 at night. Easy! :ok::E

baswell 30th Jan 2013 22:38

$10.5M seems a bit much. Maybe $9.5M for the project managers, $1M for the ILS?

rutan around 31st Jan 2013 03:29

Workers arriving on time had nothing to do with it. The gas plants had 2 choices. Build long expensive horizontal burnoff pipes to burn off excess gas so the hot gas plumes stayed close to the ground or build cheap vertical burnoff chimneys with hot plumes rising into the circuit area and supply a $10.5 million ILS so aircraft could dodge the plumes. Option 2 was cheaper. They should have plenty of spare cash.Locals up that way pay 20% to 30% of a projects value to local government for various made up charges. The Gas Plants pay Council zero upfront charges and zero rates. A once only payment of 1% of project investment would give $600 million to Council-enough to fix most of it's woes. Meanwhile if you want to talk to someone from Gladstone you'd better visit Bundaberg or Hervey Bay.
Cheers RA

Username here 31st Jan 2013 05:13


So currently there are only 2 ILSs in Queensland.
I guess there are if you don't count YBBN (2), YAMB, YBOK, YBCS (2), and YBTL...

morno 31st Jan 2013 05:14


Simple - fly the approach to the DA then circle at 300/400ft, or 1100 at night. Easy!
Yes, simple, but why build an ILS to do that when I can already do that with an RNAV approach....

Aerodynamisist 2nd Feb 2013 00:53

Good to see a few more ILS going in and at no cost to the aviation industry it is a bonus. If it's used or not they are handy to have around at renewal time. Bring it on I say, next we need them at Emerald and Mackay - heavy industry cam pay for those aswell thanks.

nitpicker330 2nd Feb 2013 01:36

What, you think you won't be charged a fee to use the new ILS? Even if you don't land at YMAV you are charged to make an Approach :D

http://www.avalonairport.com.au/cms/...-01-10-124.pdf

Ando1Bar 29th Oct 2013 00:48

A current Gladstone NOTAM talks about the ILS being for runway 10. Is this the case or is it a typo in the NOTAM? Everything I've read/heard previously said runway 28 would (unfortunately) get the ILS.

Going Nowhere 29th Oct 2013 01:21

Nope, it's runway 10.

Most of the red and white bits and pieces are in place.

frothy 30th Oct 2013 03:32

http://oi43.tinypic.com/4v5wlw.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/dy8vwj.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/1zd9qn7.jpg




Some of the red and white bits.GLT ILS Rwy 10

Frothy

startingout 30th Oct 2013 04:09

Will it be runway aligned? unlike the current rnav which is off by a fair way. If so I expect a fairly steep approach path.

alphacentauri 30th Oct 2013 04:35

Yes it's runway aligned. Approach path is standard 3 degrees


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