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Fris B. Fairing 16th Mar 2017 03:21

I am advised that the C-47 formerly VH-SPY has been sighted today on a private property at Edmonton south of Cairns. The aircraft is currently stored in the open inside a fenced enclosure. Wings and props are not fitted. The new owner's name is unknown.

RuudLeeuw 17th Apr 2017 12:16

Belfast in Cairns
 
Hi all,
I worked on an item for my
Page 49 - Photos by Friends and Guests
on Shorts SC.5 Belfast RP-C8020 at Cairns

based on
No Cookies | The Cairns Post
and posts on various forums (KeyPublishing, PPRune, Scramble)

Hope for the latest on this humongous bird...
Uupdates or add'l info appreciated

buzzz.lightyear 7th Apr 2018 02:28

It’s been moved and turned around. Doors are open and ladders up to the fuselage. I saw pix of it recently surrounded by water after the rain last week or so..

aroa 7th Apr 2018 07:47

Yep, saw that . Great to see 'something' might be happening.... to save it,???... by flying it somewhere else.???

hate to think the big bird would just be scrapped.

packapoo 7th Apr 2018 22:10


Originally Posted by buzzz.lightyear (Post 10109813)
It’s been moved and turned around. Doors are open and ladders up to the fuselage. I saw pix of it recently surrounded by water after the rain last week or so..

Thought for a moment there they'd done the right thing and dumped it in the tide...:}

cowl flaps 8th Apr 2018 09:12


... by flying it somewhere else.???
It would be a very brave pair who would fly that thing again. :eek:

LeadSled 9th Apr 2018 05:26


It would be a very brave pair who would fly that thing again.
Why, if it has got a "ferry" permit??
Tootle pip!!

aroa 9th Apr 2018 06:03

Why would you want to dump it in the tide ?? , sh*ttybits.
Its a magnificent piece of aeronautical engineering and seriously uncommon/rare. On the verge of extinction ?..is this the last of the breed ?

Would great if it only got to be parked at YMBA... great starting block for the NQ Aviation Heritage Centre..!! A small museum could be INSIDE !!

packapoo 9th Apr 2018 21:44

I realised it would be most irresponsible, that's why I looked again.

As to the rest, well, a magnificent piece of UKish how not to aeronautically engineer and thankfully rare. Guess the Port Authority wish it were even rarer....

sandiego89 17th Apr 2018 17:35

Engine runs? For the Belfast, or for another application?


Short Belfast Under Resurrection in Australia?

cowl flaps 6th May 2018 14:58

A phone pic I took last tuesday. The old girl's not looking too shabby.
https://www.pprune.org/members/17014...ts-belfast.jpg

packapoo 7th May 2018 22:12

Phone pic?
New safety criteria? Surely not.
Always thought it was the things you couldn't see that would hurt you...

theozguru 3rd Jun 2018 05:45

Has there been much movement on this plane? Has someone actually paid the parking fees? I wonder if they are going to fly it out like they did the 737-200 out of Perth to Jandakot one early Sunday morning.

cowl flaps 3rd Jun 2018 12:17


Originally Posted by theozguru (Post 10163666)
Has there been much movement on this plane? Has someone actually paid the parking fees? I wonder if they are going to fly it out like they did the 737-200 out of Perth to Jandakot one early Sunday morning.

It's been moved around in the last few months. Has been engine runs too. Not what you'd do if it was to be scrapped.
The 727-200 that sat with it a few years ago was chopped up for scrap. Parking fees on the Belfast would be in the millions, at a guess, after all these years.
Also it has been re-painted from the white to a military-like light grey. It must have some value,- being a one off.

packapoo 3rd Jun 2018 22:49

Probably one of the pollies from that not-so-squeaky-clean country a little further North that like to spend all their down time in Cairns, have 'sold' it to their Defence Force.....

mattyj 4th Jun 2018 00:30


Also it has been re-painted from the white to a military-like light grey. It must have some value,- being a one off.
are you sure it’s grey paint? From a distance, bird doo, burned rubber residue, dust and burned jet fuel residue have a similar appearance

cowl flaps 4th Jun 2018 08:49


Originally Posted by mattyj (Post 10164266)
are you sure it’s grey paint? From a distance, bird doo, burned rubber residue, dust and burned jet fuel residue have a similar appearance

If bird **** and all the other substances are shiny, you may well be right on the money, mattyj.

aroa 23rd Sep 2019 02:07

Major article in the cns 'Weekend Post' re the imminent demise of 'Hector' the last Belfast not in captivity, atho a paroled prisoner.
Anyone know what was the 'legal issue' with the Airstapo that grounded it.? Not that the local environment is doing it much good.
Would make a great specimen for the newly minted FNQ Aviation Museum, 10 minutes away.
HARS reckons its not relevant to Oz. So what ? its a rare bird, pulls in the spotters and tourists, and once gone ...never to be seen again. Unless you want a holiday in the UK

LeadSled 23rd Sep 2019 07:27

So sad.
Tootle pip!!

TwoFiftyBelowTen 25th Nov 2019 04:54

Haven’t been to CNS in a while...
It is now 2 months on from this reported “imminent” demise of Hector, can anyone please report on the situation now?

packapoo 25th Nov 2019 20:11

Nah maaaate! Fire would've been out before the thing even got within cooee.....

FM eh? Haven't heard that name taken, rightfully IMO, in vain in years.....

Manubada 26th Nov 2019 01:21

What's the latest with FM? Did he succeed with the $45M "compensation blong me" claim?

Alice Kiwican 26th Nov 2019 01:49


Originally Posted by Petropavlovsk (Post 10625907)
Piper Navajo Chieftain associated with Fred Marten's the convicted child crim (apologies if the verdict has been reversed) and registered in his brothers name..

Is that the aircraft that Hinterland engineers (I think) used to do engine runs on every month or so? Something to do with the owner one day coming and flying away in it

Global Aviator 26th Nov 2019 05:42

A quick buff and she’d be right eh......

Duck Pilot 26th Nov 2019 08:32

A bit of wind in the tyres might help as well.

What’s the latest with FM? Anyone know?

Kagamuga 26th Nov 2019 11:40

Had the misfortune to sit next to him about 12 months ago on a PX flight from POM to CNS.
He was dressed in well worn blue slacks, crumpled white pilot shirt, with a pair of epaulettes in left hand shirt pocket, positioned so that 4 gold bars were appropriately visible through the shirt material. Longish silver grey hair.
I didn't say anything to start with until he filled out his 'incoming' card and stated his profession was an 'airline pilot'.
He openly brags about the apparent wrongful arrest and jailing with no prompting what so ever. Of course it's not his fault the Chieftain is dormant at Cairns, always other peoples fault.

Duck Pilot 26th Nov 2019 11:54

Hope you addressed him as Captain or Skipper Kagamuga!

Manubada 28th Nov 2019 00:50

Charlatan comes to mind. Just sayin' like........

bad_pilot 10th Dec 2019 02:08

Still wondering exactly which backyard that DC3 is in...

Fris B. Fairing 10th Dec 2019 07:06


Originally Posted by bad_pilot (Post 10636013)
Still wondering exactly which backyard that DC3 is in...

It's no longer in the yard at Edmonton. In October it was sighted at Innisfail Airport still in its dismantled state.

aroa 12th Dec 2019 01:03

IFL air show abt a month ago... Dak in bits to be seen across the strip from the Aero Club FNQAM interested in it.
Belfast still there intact last week...will check again next week.

Duck Pilot 12th Dec 2019 07:14

Never know, it might mysteriously disappear one night and no one will ever know where it’s gone.......


Pinky the pilot 12th Dec 2019 09:28

Just out of curiosity; Anyone know when was the last time that Chieftain (AFW) flew?:hmm:

Kagamuga 13th Dec 2019 01:32

Pinky,

Very long time ago when Chieftain last flew; so much so it does not even appear on FlightAware as a listed aircraft.

Fred Martens operated the aircraft in PNG on a "questionable" flying doctor service. The registered address is Fred's 'pile' in Mareeba, Qld; but the aircraft has always been registered as an operator in his brother's name since 2004 at a different address.
If you try and match up the two names; Martens was a Wheatley before the family chucked him out back in the 1970's and Fred changed his name. Fred used to hoon around Berwick in those days in an Aztec from memory. Not the smartest bunch, young brother had to go to USA to get a CPL. The Aussie systems was too challenging.

If you can get hold of a copy of the centre fold magazine that forms part of the weekend Australian, many years ago there was an article on Fred and his brother. Fred has always claimed the Government settled with him in strict secrecy and that's why there is no 'hansard' data available.... You'll piss yourself laughing if you get to read the story!

longrass 13th Dec 2019 11:53


Originally Posted by Petropavlovsk (Post 10625907)
Sitting n the sun and aging gracefully.
In it's day probably would have made a good water tanker/fire bomber.....
Cairns airport has not go the balls to tear it up, there is a derelict C208 Caravan there from Green Island swim club, Piper Navajo Chieftain associated with Fred Marten's the convicted child crim (apologies if the verdict has been reversed) and registered in his brothers name.
There is a recent addition to the graveyard a Cessna C340. Rotten old Aero Commander and other bits and pieces.

I tried for many years to buy P2-NAZ (P68) I think it was cairns airport. They actually seized the aircraft and owned it but despite offering them money they couldn’t find the correct “process” to sell it.

Office Update 25th Jul 2022 04:18

Engineering team working on Belfast to return to flight status.
Good progress being made.

Mach E Avelli 25th Jul 2022 05:26

[QUOTE=Office Update;11267155]Engineering team working on Belfast to return to flight status.
Good progress being made.[/QUOTE

I smell some novel scam here.
It has no hope of ever flying legally. It has little historical value - unless lemons make for good history - so it’s not even worth the cost to ferry to a museum. And good luck with a ferry permit, even on RP rego, even with brown paper bags under the desk. It would be a very courageous official who would sign it off. Crew recency? Insurance? Payment of outstanding airport charges before release?

Engineer time would be better utilised stripping all the toxic stuff out of it so that it can be towed out to sea and used as a dive wreck.

junior.VH-LFA 25th Jul 2022 06:10


Originally Posted by Office Update (Post 11267155)
Engineering team working on Belfast to return to flight status.
Good progress being made.

Which team? I hope they have deep pockets.

packapoo 25th Jul 2022 22:01

Not. A. Chance.

p.s. This is my favourite topic here....

Old aeroplane geek 11th Feb 2023 04:32

Visting Cairns yesterday from down south.
Saw the Belfast, magnificent aircraft.
Engineer working on aircraft said almost ready for engine runs, looked to have new tyres, brakes, oleo struts etc


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