How do I use a Checklist: Thread# 3,254,682
 

Happened to stumble across this the other day while I was looking for something else and I remembered that this subject comes up about once every 3 weeks here.

THIS is how a checklist should be used!

A-freaking-men!

As opposed to the aircraft owner, who after witnessing them trying to extend flaps and gear almost 20Kts overspeed, I told to "make sure you use your checklist" immediately before they moved their a/c to my location. As they shut down, I opened the baggage door & to quote Gomer Pyle, "Surprise, surrprise, surrrprise!", there's the checklist. FFS.:ugh:

It's ok... he has the newspaper.

King air drivers, did he miss anything??

That is why it is called a "Check List" and not a "To Do List". :ok:

He also has a video of landing the king air. Flawless!

Don't they use a shoulder harness

Not in the flows, but missed 2, if not 3 CHECKLISTS! (which I thought was the point of the thread) :eek:

In his defence the video did seem to finish prematurely! ;)

They should, doesn't seem to appear in some of his other videos either.

From the video poster's comments on youtube;

The point of the thread is that a checklist is just that - a CHECK list, not a "to-do" list.

:ok:

I'm with Howard, the dude only pulled out the checklist once. What happened to pulling it out after he'd completed his pre-start flow?

That, ladies and gentlemen, is not how to use a checklist, :ok:.

And I say that with about 2,000hrs on King Air's.

morno

No use saying he missed things if you don't list the checklist and items missed Maybe he has one continuous checklist without subsections
I'm pretty sure he checked the "urn" was on, that's pretty important

A 'checklist' is neither, if you don't use it! :E

Any checklist that requires a pilot, particularly single pilot, to go "heads down" checking items on the pedestal like pressurization and TCAS while taxying is a deficient checklist. In the video, this guy was fiddling around with his head down quite a bit. I was waiting for him to run off the taxiway.
It is easy enough to redesign the King Air checklist (any checklist for that matter)to incorporate all the essential stuff into before start and after start phases, i.e. before taxying, leaving only a couple of items to be done after run up or approaching the active runway.
Also, non killer items like lights and transponders etc can be safely omitted from the checklist and simply memorised as a scan, so maybe that's what this guy was doing. If you forget to select the transponder you get a 'please explain' from ATC these days, so by the time you have filed all the grovelling paperwork it is fairly certain that you will never forget it again. Ditto for cancelling SARwatch, though this appears on many checklists . For the memory-impaired, I suppose.
Light aircraft 'factory' checklists are sometimes written in a 'how to' format e.g. the details to start engines are there just to cover the manufacturer's arse if some owner pilot who flies 50 hours a year screws it up.

Not a great deal of help in G airspace, non controlled airport. Me inbound in jet using TCAS to help build the picture and Kingair mate blasts off relying on ATC to remind him to do his job properly.

Fair enough, but assuming that our hero has got on the radio before departure, everyone should know roughly where he is. Relying on the other guy's TCAS is frought. My bugsmasher is not required to have a transponder, but I do make the usual taxi call and old farmer Joe in his 172 will usually say something, even if not the perfect phraseology.
Non selection of transponder and lights is slack, even poor airmanship. But these days the thinking is to reduce checklist content - maybe not to killer only but certainly to essential only.

New Checklist Invention Could Take The Paperwork Out Of Pre-Flight | Aero-News Network

These are perfect for single pilot ops. I just can't find the website for more info.

Single pilot, you shouldn't be doing heads down checks during a taxi. That's what the park brake is for!

There's no excuse for not using a checklist. But doing the checks in a flow pattern, then confirming you've done each item by reading the checklist afterwards, is the best way of doing it.

morno

Electronic checklists have been around a long time in various forms. The upside is the amount of stuff that can go on them for emergency procedures. The downside is that none of it works if the electrics fail, but I guess we will always have a paper back up for that situation. Also it is too easy to fall into the trap of loading too much non essential stuff on to them.
For day to day checks, the old flip tabs on the glareshield are the best, particularly for single pilot work. Head stays up and by their very nature they have to be kept short.
When I flew the old Fokker 27 we had one that covered everything needed for safe operations and it had space for 10 or so items each side, 20 in all.
The B 737 checklist on the control column only has about 12 items in all, which covers taxi, takeoff, approach and landing. Although the pre start phase and shut down phases require a few more to be read out from a printed sheet.

I've been trying to find those flip tabs for bloody ages. Damned if I can find any for sale.

I well recall the story of a pilot at Essendon starting his C402 which had one of these fancy roller blind checklists with about 90 items from start to stop. The company required full use of this checklist. Even the most inconsequential item was on it.
It was night and raining and the windows misted up. As he turned to taxi out of the lines he started rolling his checklist and never did see his wing tip swipe the nose of another aircraft. He sure felt it though. Did not affect his career though since he is now an A330 captain with Dragonair and very wealthy thank you very much. Half his luck.

The longest checklist I ever saw was on a civilian Winjeel at Point Cook. It was another of these roller blind thingies. I knew a thing or two about Winjeels having instructed on them in the old days in the RAAF. Checklists were unheard of then. Didn't need them on Tiger Moths, Wirraways or Mustangs or even Dakotas.

This Winjeel at Point Cook had 137 read and do items on its checklist. If I recall correctly, the first item on the checklist was "Gooday". The last item was "have a good day". Obviously user-friendly....