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BreakNeckSpeed 7th Dec 2012 11:04

Hardy's Aviation Grounded?
 
Word is that Hardy's are not even allowed to fly VFR now...

Do I take this to mean that they are completely grounded?

:eek: What is CASA up to?!

Ex FSO GRIFFO 7th Dec 2012 14:11

5 pm fax....

Sorry, nil response, due not received this department......

Fax was U/S....unknown to anybody....no faxes for over 3 or 4 weeks / months at least.......

Golf Foxtrot.....:}

Socket 7th Dec 2012 18:54


What is CASA up to?!
Of course it wouldn't have anything to do with what the company was up to, would it?

Tosser.

PLovett 7th Dec 2012 21:05

Hell's teeth. IF Hardy's have gone, along with Directair then the GA ramp at Darwin is going to look rather bare and the workload to the communities over the next 4 or so months is going to get frantic for the remaining operators. :uhoh:

Opportunities loom for some but unless they have some experienced "wet" hands there will be tears. :{

bizbug182 7th Dec 2012 23:10

had it on good authority that from 7 pm on fri night that all charters were cancelled.Had 2 seperate people I know have the offfice ring them up and tell them to find alternative arrangements.

The Green Goblin 7th Dec 2012 23:14

Airnorth Metro drivers might get some work, Pearl might even go somewhere other than truckstop for a change. They may get lost though :}

that guy 7th Dec 2012 23:48

And I thought the airwaves were quiet last week!!

GG I wouldn't be surprised the way I heard them struggling last week "traffic trusco... err port Keats" :p

The Green Goblin 7th Dec 2012 23:52

Must have been pretty scary for them!

Would have been a ten minute approach brief, and a thirty minute takeoff brief once they were there hahaha

lemel 8th Dec 2012 00:00

I'm really surprised to hear this.

During my GA days Hardys was the place to work. It was a great operation.

What has happened to it? Did the company start cutting corners?

Any light shedding would be great.

The Green Goblin 8th Dec 2012 00:04

I think CASA darwin are on a mission from god.

First the Gator, now Hardy.

I suppose it's logical to suggest that a major Broome operator will be next...:ugh:

If I were the Hardy brothers, I'd be operating as per the NZ CAA, re-registering their aeroplanes ZK and giving the trolls at CASA the bird ;)

Nothing but respect for Hardy Aviation and what they have achieved in the last five years.

The Shovel 8th Dec 2012 02:47

Nothing but respect for Hardy`s full stop.

Lot of guys sitting up the front of airliners these days came from the Hardy`s stable.

seneca208 8th Dec 2012 02:59

Alongside the demise of Directair, if this grounding progresses further, what does it mean for newbies chasing work in the NT?

ABC News also reporting the grounding-

NT airline grounded over safety concerns - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Rotor Work 8th Dec 2012 03:01

From ABC Website

NT airline grounded over safety concerns - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

The Northern Territory's biggest airline has been grounded over safety concerns in a move that will affect hundreds of passengers.
Last night the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) told Hardy Aviation to ground all of its 32 planes.
The airline, which flies to towns and communities across the Northern Territory, says CASA has told it that it has concerns with some pilots not meeting safety requirements and the type of flight simulator being used by the company.
Hardy Aviation was due to conduct charter flights this weekend and the company says hundreds of passengers will be affected by the suspension of its regular services next week.
The company says it's in the process of informing passengers and its 125 staff members about the grounding.
It comes days after one of Hardy's services, Fly Tiwi, had its planes grounded because two senior pilots failed a qualifications test.

Edit, sorry Ben 93, looks like we posted around the same time
Regards R W

SpyderPig 8th Dec 2012 03:20

Wow I never thought I would be reading that, Hardys rep is rock solid.

All the best to the crew there and hope its sorted out soon.:ok:

The Green Goblin 8th Dec 2012 04:33

Well there is some light, the Metro drivers can go to Pearl as a first year Captain, and earn 95k plus an 18k area allowance! (If the EBA is accepted)

Thats some pretty serious coin to work a day or two a week and drive a Metro!

FOs on 65% of that making it a pretty good salary also. In fact it's better than what the competitors are paying their Captains!

Must be some money in Truscott!

Ando1Bar 8th Dec 2012 05:07

What sim do Hardy's use that CASA are not happy about?

4SPOOLED 8th Dec 2012 05:48

Probably the fact they don't use sims for the >5700 operation.

Socket 8th Dec 2012 05:54

Question: How many Chief Pilots do Hardies have?

Word was Hardy was suspended from RPT and IFR operations because senior pilots failed 'safety tests'. I' m just guessing that means IFR renewals or some such seeing as simulators were dragged into the reports.

This post on a thread not far removed from here after the suspension;


I heard one of Hardy's conquests depart IFR out of borroloola this afternoon. Ops normal?
Speculation: Is this a more likely reason for CASA to suspend all operations than:

Managing director John Hardy says CASA is not satisfied with the company's pilot training and wants it to use a different flight simulator.
Just asking.

seneca208 8th Dec 2012 06:03

Hardy Aviation in Northern Territory grounds its flights | News.com.au

That report states the CP failed his CIR renewal and it was a subsequent 'investigation' that required the whole operation to be grounded for 'safety reasons.'

Lasiorhinus 8th Dec 2012 06:09

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Yet the Regulator throws up their hands and says "wasnt me"...


THE Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) says the grounding of the Northern Territory's biggest airline is not a result of an order by the regulator.

Hardy Aviation has confirmed it grounded all its flights on Saturday after CASA wrote to it on Friday about safety issues, which first emerged a week ago.

CASA spokesman Peter Gibson says "instrument rating" issues had been raised in relation to Hardy's chief pilot.

"We wrote to them yesterday about a range of issues and made a series of proposals," he told AAP.

Hardy had been given until Monday to respond to the letter, Mr Gibson said, but CASA had not moved to ground the airline.

"What happens next depends on what their response is," he said.

"If the whole airline is grounded, if that's the case, it must have been their (the airline's) decision."



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