He shouldn't be allowed to take holidays until he sorts out this mess.

The exam these days is multiple choice. There is no assessment of the working. The only way CASA could change a mark is if they either changed the correct answer or increased the error margin and allowed for more than one correct answer.

It's improbable (but possible) CASA had the incorrect answer. The more likely answer, given the sudden increase in failures, it that they had reduced the margin and have now increased it. As the exam is marked by computer it is add to believe that it was a marking error.

AFT students from the most recent AFPL sitting reported that their working out sheets were also collected by the ASL rep.

The working out sheets (3 from memory), are always collected, so you can't write down the questions off the screen and take them out with you, always been that way.

Sorry, of course, but what I am hinting at was I think comments where made by ASL reps regarding their use following the exam. Some AFT guys will have to confirm.

I'm now hearing that a training organisation has developed "new course notes." I fear after working for 14 months on FP, taken 6 weeks leave, sat through two courses and about 4k spent, I'll now have to start again learning new stuff.

Which training organisation might that be?

Casa is outrageous. The same crap happened in about 93-94

Two other candidates and I passed last week so perhaps things are looking up?!

CASA have apparently pulled some questions. Words to the effect of; people had too much knowledge of exam questions so we adjusted some parameters without rewriting the questions, subsequently changed the available answers without rewriting anything (by the way - we didn't change anything, remember?). Then people brought to our attention that the exam was broken, but it wasn't and so we fixed it. Despite a huge increase in the failure rate, only a select few people were affected by the correctly-incorrect questions and we have subsequently fixed their exams retrospectively.

So the exam was(n't) broken for a period of time. Is it safe to assume that of those sitting exams while it was(n't) broken, that all their exams have been reassessed and that the net result is that the failure rate returned to the original 40% approximation during that period?

:ugh:

Something to answer for AFT??
 

Anybody else passed this exam recently?

Joker89
 

Hey guy's/Jker89

I sat the Flight Planning exam last week. First attempt 82%.! was the last one, so no more ASL for me and suck it CASA I win! haha

In saying that I did a course at UNSW was struggling but spent 2 mths in the books and nothing else. Got to the exam didn't see any questions I was unsure about finished in the time frame and felt that It was one of the easiest exams I have sat, and I have had my fair share of fails.

PS UNSW prac exams gold, recommend over AFT anyday.
So was pleased!
Keep trucking guys it's not unbeatable! :ok:

Thanks AP,

Good work. As suspected the exam has probably been quietly fixed.

Any info from the latest AFT course that just sat ATPL Flight Planning? Better luck this time round?

Unfortunately no such luck. I only heard of 3 that passed out of around 30. Myself included in the majority.

Sat it a few days ago and passed (finally!) AFT has updated their cyber exams and they seem to be closer to the 'new' casa standard of difficulty, you just need to get an update to the notes sent from aft with the workings for the new questions

Thanks for the info!

Or Gen Y to realize that you can't chuck some money and a couple of weeks to solve your problems.

To understand the complexities of the subject and to have the principles stick, you need to spend a good couple of months learning the subject.

Rubbish. I walked away with a good understanding of the principles and complexities of the subject with 2 weeks of learning. The theory school's teach what is required to satisfy the syllabus set by CASA. What else are we supposed to learn?

That was not AFT's approach when I sat the course last year. Yes, certain techniques are taught, but those techniques are more about how to achieve the workings of the answers in the required time. I don't know how else you would teach someone to pass this exam, apart from teaching only the questions.

morno

Well morno you're either incredibly bright, or incredibly naive.

I'd suggest its more a case of you don't know what you don't know.

You'll realise it one day too with the benefit of hindsight and career progression.

GG,
Perhaps, but until they change the syllabus, then I'm a bit confused as to how I'm meant to learn more on the subject if they don't define what extra things I'm supposed to learn.

In reality, a good endorsement on an aircraft where these method's etc. are applicable, plus appropriate line training and learning from the guy in the left seat, should refine all these things they carry on about in the first place.

morno