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RENURPP 16th Aug 2012 23:44

Whoops.
Something's standard!

CHAIRMAN 17th Aug 2012 11:34

Not thinking about Cabbo are you Jabba?
Could broaden the BBQ scene now spring is coming on:ok:

Jabawocky 17th Aug 2012 13:11

Actually I was thinking for a friend in the NT............ but now that you mention it.

I do need to get me some lights at home though. All these night arrivals at that red neck joint across D'Bay are getting a bit much :ouch: ;)

Hey you booked into the do in NRM? Should see ya there hey bloke!:ok:

Tinstaafl 17th Aug 2012 20:27

Speaking (or writing) of getting lights, Jabba, there used to be a few mobs who made runway cone markers with a solar charged LED light *and* a PAL receiver built in. That sort of thing might be useful for you or your mate - if they're still available. I liked that each cone marker had its own light & receiver so even if one receiver or light failed the others were unaffected. Wonder if they're still available?

Oktas8 18th Aug 2012 00:17

Lots of things on this thread I didn't know. But I do know how to answer the question, so I will. Now.

ERSA. List of aerodromes. FAC section for that aerodrome. "Aerodrome & Approach Lighting".

Example, Dubbo, page FAC-D-2. 90m spacing. (This hyperlink probably won't work after 22 August 2012.)

I don't concern myself with if-it's-this-sort-of-runway-then-this-otherwise-that-unless-it's-a-Tuesday-then-the-other-thing kind of reasoning. There are so many exceptions, exemptions, grandfather rights and so on that the only way to know is to look it up, for that particular runway.

Cheers,
O8

morno 18th Aug 2012 00:50

Rockhampton's is a pain in the arse. 60m spacing north of the 04/22 and 15/33 intersection, 61m south of it. So where does that leave you legally with regards to take off minima?

The shorter of the runways 04/22, has 60m spacing.

Then just to add to the stupidity, apparently Rockhampton Airport say that they've withdrawn support for take off minima's below 800m's. Exactly what support is that? And why is it that I have all the lighting and marking requirements, plus the survey requirements (according to the RDS), to use 550m visibility, but they say I can't?

morno

Fieldmouse 18th Aug 2012 04:01

Morno
 
Can't say for sure re Rocky, but low vis ops have requirements for the pre-alerting of back-up generators, security of boundaries and strict control of airside access. Some airports just can't, won't, or aren't yet in a position to guarantee all that.

morno 18th Aug 2012 04:14

Yeah thanks Fieldmouse. I'm not sure about the generator (ERSA says it's got a 1 second change over during Low Vis Ops), maybe that's not available at the moment. But I know for a fact they double lock all gates and Low Vis Procedures warning cones are placed everywhere where access to the tarmac in a vehicle or aircraft is possible.

morno

Fieldmouse 18th Aug 2012 07:23

Bit going on there looking at the Notams.
 
Ungrooved runway, tower ops in the old tower. They may not be able to guarantee protection of the services or runway friction in the event of a rejected. Sure there's a reason. Always fun times when lots of work is going on..........

Capn Bloggs 18th Aug 2012 09:39

First time I've heard of all that airport stuff for "Lo Vis Ops". You guys aren't considering 550m as real LVOs are you (not that I know what real LVOs are :ouch:... but I doubt very much whether the eons-old stock-standard 550m vis procedure is a LVO)?

Jabawocky 18th Aug 2012 11:25

The actual wx is never below the minima morno, just refer the QFlink guys for additional training :ok::}

Seriously, I might hunt around for some of these gizmo's when i get a minute of free time! There is bound to be lots of good things now.

Hey Chairperson.....all we need is Chuckles and a LED lamp on his head in you beasty......Straight to YOUTUBE :E


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