PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions (https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions-91/)
-   -   Flight Safety Magazine - The end of an era (https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/489431-flight-safety-magazine-end-era.html)

peterc005 2nd Jul 2012 12:47

@kingRB - I'm not troll; it's just this place tends to attract grumpy old men who like to whine all day. Being happy and positive contrasts with many here.

If I get home and there's a new copy of Flight Safety Magazine I usually read it that night.

There is a pile of FSMs on the book shelf in my study, next to AIP, CAR and CAO etc.

Often I highlight interesting articles and show them to my older son who is doing his PPL. When my son signed up for the CASA Self-Service Portal I made sure he got his own copy of FSM.

I also read magazines like Australian Flying. Unfortunately I rarely get times to read many books these days, but always keep a copy of magazines in my bag in case I get a few spare moments to read them.

training wheels 2nd Jul 2012 14:41

I'm surprised it lasted this long. You never get anything for free these days, especially from an organization that's known for being tight arse and supporting the concept of 'user pays'. It would have been better if they printed it only to those who wanted it. But judging the responses here, I guess that wouldn't be many and therefore probably wouldn't attract much advertising revenue.

Centaurus 2nd Jul 2012 15:00


I'll be honest and say I hardly read/read it. However if it is only online I can guarantee you I will never read it. Just as I don't read Newspapers online...and won't.
Me too. Re the old Aviation Safety Digests. Someone a few years back advertised in the Melbourne Trading Post, 100 of them in perfect condition.
I got there first and now these precious magazines are MINE - ALL MINE:ok:

I ration myself to one each day to be read at will at my favourite coffee shop. When they are finished I'll do the Sydney Harbour Bridge painting job and start all over again. Never did that with FSA. ASD is timeless due mainly to the the wonderful editorship of Macarthur Job.

For those who would consider breaking and entering my house to pinch my ASD's I must warn you I own a killer Jack Russell taught to leap at a thief's throat should I say "ASD him, Maggie". :E

Tinstaafl 2nd Jul 2012 16:17


100 of them in perfect condition. I got there first and now these precious magazines are MINE - ALL MINE
Bastard. Nay. Utter bastard. You may consider yourself told, Centaurus.

Wallsofchina 2nd Jul 2012 18:58

And just when we thought he was a Nice Man too.

I notice Macarthur Job's name has come up again with the usual superlatives.

Maybe he should be given some permanent recognition for the mark he left on Australian aviation?

djpil 2nd Jul 2012 21:42

Mac has an OAM, amongst other awards.

Angle of Attack 2nd Jul 2012 23:05

They should scrap the online edition too then with the costs saved, reduce our medical fees or bloody license reprint fees,.......yes I know I am dreaming! :ok:

Old but not bold 2nd Jul 2012 23:43

FSM
 
You can never stop learning from other people miss-adventures, Peter is quite correct it is good reading and maybe even us OLD fellas can still learn. New Pilots do not "know everything" like some of you that appear to be bored by this Mag, who knows we maybe reading about your next mistake???
Oldie:sad:

Lookleft 3rd Jul 2012 01:25

Why not give the ATSB the budget to print a safety magazine (like they used to). The problem with the FSD was it became more an advetorial for all the different agencies with a few "name witheld at pilots request stories".

Wallsofchina 3rd Jul 2012 05:49


Mac has an OAM, amongst other awards.
That's a good start, but this guy has had a far greater influence than many of the other OAM recipients.

Desert Flower 3rd Jul 2012 06:50


FSD - I doubt that any self respecting mouse would bother to take a bite out of it on the dunny floor
Obviously the mice I have at my place aren't self respecting then!

DF.

DaisyDuck 3rd Jul 2012 07:44

:ok: Well said Oldie

quinnyfly 3rd Jul 2012 07:46

Mac Job is bloody ledgend, got all his Air Disaster series, have read them at least twice and certain stories a few times just to refresh. I just wish he'd write some more and that CASA would keep the pupl printing as I also am not a fan of E-reading.

Personally, the tactile literature you can smell and take with you anywhere you go is the ideal safety candidate in my book <pardon the pun!!>. Stuff this online garbage....bad for your eyes folks!!:=

Anthill 3rd Jul 2012 10:43

The Budgies used to complain when I lined the bottom of the bird cage with Flight safety. Squawking and squawking....At first I thought that they were in need of more roughage, so I bought some cuttlefish for them. It turned out that they weren't constipated, but they would not even sh!t on that magazine.

As a young student pilot, Air Safety Digest not only told valueable safety lessons, but also managed to impart the concept of AIRMANSHIP to readers. FSM was just a waste of paper. I feel a bit sad for those who made the effort to contribute.

jas24zzk 3rd Jul 2012 12:01

Whilst I prefer the old FSD over the current magazine, its still better reading that than watching crap like the block or masterchef.

The situation we have now, is none of those 'old rehashed stories' will be passed onto the new guys coming through. A sad situation.

As for Mac Job continuing to write. Hmm mixed emotion on that. My thoughts are not the he shouldn't, or has nothing to contribute, quite the contrary.

I recently had the pleasure of meeting the GENTLEMAN behind the moniker. It was in a relaxed environment, with the smell of snags burning in the air. (YCEM's 50th anniversary). Whilst I was 'working' on the day, when the oppurtunity presented, he was a joy to listen to. His ability to hold a captive audience, and relate the message he was attempting.
One of the attendee's on the day took him flying..i'll see if i can't post the pic in a minute, and he was most gracious for that experience.

At least the 'rag' some of you condemn, had the foresight to publish his work.

Old Akro 3rd Jul 2012 23:54

I got this final copy of FSA last night. I think the letter from John McCormack reveals some of what is wrong with CASA.

As I recall, the FSA magazine was implemented in response to criticism of CASA after a review of its activities. If I recall correctly, CASA was criticised for (at the time) having no flight safety feedback mechanism to pilots. So the old ASD concept was revived and implemented (in my opinion) poorly. So, now that FSD is dead, what is the saftety communication mechanism which replaces it? Aren't we just back to the same place on the hamster wheel prior to CASA being criticied at its next review about having no c=safety communication mechanism to pilots?

Secondly, I think this line illustrates that CASA just doesn't "get" its role: All Government agencies must prioritise the way they spend public monies (sic); in this case CASA is no different". Unlike other Government agencies, CASA operates in a user-pays environment. Its not " public monies" its our money, Ralph.

If CASA was sincere, the magazine would have been dropped after a review of its effectiveness and would be accompanied with a strategy to replace its function. Instead, one suspects, it was simply sacrificed as an easy way out to avoid the real work of management in achieving operating cost reduction through productivity improvement.

Wallsofchina 3rd Jul 2012 23:59

Good point OA

djpil 4th Jul 2012 01:59

Just happened to run into Mac and had a chat about this a few minutes ago. He had to dash - another deadline approaching, he is still busy writing so we should post links to his future articles in the online FSA magazine.
I think few will go online to browse through it.

Rotor Work 4th Jul 2012 03:50

I wonder if they will still post out the multi creased yearly Wall Calendar,
Regards R W

gobbledock 4th Jul 2012 05:36

Perhaps the costs they will save by dumping the magazine will pay for Albanese and his parasite political sh*tbag colleagues newly approved but immoral and unjustifiable payrises?

Akro is correct. The Government is happy for each department to ditch programs, services or pretty much anything to ensure costs are minimised just enough so that the turds in office can extract more taxpayer money for their own personal gain, or should I say their salaries and troughs.

The stench of political greed and the disconnect they have with reality and the rest of society is nothing short of astounding. Anyway, I wish all politicians a slow and painful death within a fiery plane crash, act of terrorism or some other slow means.


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:21.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.