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Counter-rotation 22nd May 2012 00:44

Indeed, make an effort to check your mic select - 100% fair point. But come on...

I heard it again today while in Sydney. Some guy goes out on guard inadvertantly - hey, it's going to happen from time to time. He even realised it, and pretty much straight up ceased transmitting, and...

In less than a second someone is on there - "Guard mate". Fair enough to let him know, but surely you realise that he has realised.

But wait, there's more! (Like an annoying telemarketing spray)

Another "121.5 twit" feels the need to pipe up in a stupid voice. Then, after that, yet another... What is going through the space between this guy's ears, when after two "guard police" transmissions, he feels the need to add a third?!!
I can see it now, he's sitting there, with PTT in one hand and d1k in the other, feeling smug and superior but vowing to be faster on the draw next time, so as to get in first - with a new, improved and even sillier voice or sound effect.

Some good points made here about radio use, but the question in the thread's title remains unanswered... :confused: :ugh:

Howard Hughes 22nd May 2012 02:46

-checks mic-

"Say again, in with with the guard police"...:E

DutchRoll 22nd May 2012 07:42

Yeah I don't like the Guard-Nazis either. An inadvertent transmission does occur from time to time on 121.5. That frequency exchange switch is a right-royal pain sometimes. It really doesn't require some bloke to scream out "GUARD!!" at the top of his voice. :=

And I don't mind an initial contact on guard to "go the numbers" to chat about the wind or whatever. :ok:

It's the absolute morons who do all the other stuff on guard I'm concerned about (well, concerned for their mental health at least). :ugh:

Nose wheel first 22nd May 2012 08:21

A couple of months ago I was asked by centre to try and contact an aircraft on xxx.x and on 121.5 and if I got hold of them to contact centre on zzz.z. When I tried to contact him on "Guard" I specifically called "abc, def on 121.5" .... I still had some peanut inform me that I was on "Guard". FFS, I know.....


I can see it now, he's sitting there, with PTT in one hand and d1k in the other, feeling smug and superior but vowing to be faster on the draw next time, so as to get in first
Thats gold! :D A pity it's probably true!

jas24zzk 22nd May 2012 10:39

clearly said peanut was not worthy of being rated a peanut. Without your Tx identifying the calling frequency, said peanut prolly would not have realised what freq he received the initial call on


Good thing it wasn't me in your spot....i can't afford enough lawyers for what my response would have been.

Dunno about anyone else, but was out in the backwoods once and got asked to attempt to make contact with a certain aircraft, on several freq's including 121.5. Very little info was given from BN centre. An extremely disconcerting feeling to be sitting there trying to contact someone whose situation is uncertain.

I can say I have never been dumb enough to tx on guard.....other freq's...................................................... ................

quoting Kalavo

only takes 3 weeks to form a habit, and something a lot of us got taught at the PPL stage
Its surprising how few students get through without dealing with multiple radio's. Even more alarming, is that using the 2nd radio is actively discouraged by most instructors with the line "don't do that it'll only make it harder for you" Hence we go onto learn the hard way. My hard way was in a twin at NIGHT into YLTV. Fortunatley the other aircraft in the cct was monitoring MLCEN, so was fully aware of me.

Maybe the entry level training needs to put some more focus on aircraft subsystems, esp with glass cockpits becoming all the rage, and more differing between models.

Capn Bloggs 22nd May 2012 12:15


Its surprising how few students get through without dealing with multiple radio's. Even more alarming, is that using the 2nd radio is actively discouraged by most instructors with the line "don't do that it'll only make it harder for you"
I consider running two active radios to be one of our major hazards in Class G and something that should be discouraged. Either you're t-xing on Area or CTAF, not both. Sure you may be forced to making calls on both at the same time but it's a sure-fire way to lose the plot IMO. I always monitor the other one, but I try like hell to yabber only on one. "Changing to CTAF". :ok:

Ducksbum 24th May 2012 11:34

Guard Nazis
 
Guard Nazis - Now I know where you hang out.

You guys are awesome :rolleyes:


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