PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions (https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions-91/)
-   -   How many hours did it take you to get your first twin ride. (https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/468093-how-many-hours-did-take-you-get-your-first-twin-ride.html)

Al Fentanyl 9th Nov 2011 06:54

I recall there were certainly many hours involved and lots of alcohol before I convinced the twins (19, blond & oh so hot) that coming home for a 'ride' with me was a good idea :E.... oh hang on, is the about aeroplanes..... oops, sorry....:O

knox 9th Nov 2011 07:53


Originally Posted by Al Fentanyl (Post 6797849)
I recall there were certainly many hours involved and lots of alcohol before I convinced the twins (19, blond & oh so hot) that coming home for a 'ride' with me was a good idea :E.... oh hang on, is the about aeroplanes..... oops, sorry....:O

Al
I was wondering how long it was going to take. 3 pages… not too bad.

Fantome 10th Nov 2011 02:50

Bumped into a retired ATPL recently. Got chatting about first encounters
with flight flying and fliers. He surprised me by saying -

"I can date my involvement from the 14th of August 1947."

"Howso?"

"That was the day my mum gave birth to me - in an RFDS Dragon Rapide
over Menindee Lakes."

zac21 27th Oct 2018 11:37


Originally Posted by Aye Ess (Post 6788443)
Wally...I'm what is known as a 'mature' pilot. My first twin endorsement was with Frank Woodfall aviation at Archerfield. A Partenavia....WOW!!! I felt I was flying an airliner!!!

Frank Woodfall, now there's a crusty old bloke who is now long gone!

Lapon 27th Oct 2018 13:23

<500TT although luck played a major part. As other will attest the multi engine part was easy... the single pilot IFR side less so (survived in no small part due to innocence I am sure).

umop apisdn 27th Oct 2018 14:13

Aboit 2500 hours . My first time in a jet was also the first time in a twin. Still holding out to fill up the command column though .

LeadSled 28th Oct 2018 07:26


Originally Posted by Arcturus (Post 6788258)
3 years & 322 hrs total time. In mid '60s, my first twin was a DC3. Nearly cleaned up runway lights on both sides of the runway on first take-off ! :ooh:

Folks,
"Back in the day" when Qantas had two C-47 based in Tamworth, there was a wonderful array of very educational rubber marks on the runway, and lots of wheel tracks in the clay off the runway. Just as well the old girls were well neigh indestructible. The best were when "somebody" didn't engage the tailwheel lock properly.
The most fun to watch were the ex-RAF and RN recruits to QF, who had never flown a piston engine aeroplane, much less a taildragger. "Swing" was dance music until their rude awakening.
Suddenly finding another use for their feet. AaaaaahhhH, the good old days, and they were good.
First twin, about 52 hours, and a 150HP Piper Apache. Gave a whole new meaning to "a modest performer".
Tootle pip!!

greybeard 28th Oct 2018 07:34

750 hours, DC-3, first twin and Tailwheel, lots of wriggle down the runways, would do it again tomorrow, bugger being this old.

FL235 28th Oct 2018 07:37

<250 TT, 5yrs. On to Aztecs,mostly, 1450 hrs in next 4? yrs. Long time ago

markfelt 28th Oct 2018 08:39

2800 hours to a C402

topdrop 28th Oct 2018 11:20

Never endorsed on a twin, though I have got to fly a few under supervision. First (at about 30 hours) was 1 circuit in a PNGDF DC3 after maintenance at East West in Tamworth - President of aero club was EWA employee, Panel looked pretty ancient apart from the brand new digital DME.

Derfred 28th Oct 2018 11:43


Originally Posted by Tankengine (Post 6791946)
I remember doing a 747 endorsement with an ex airforce guy who had never flown any multi!
The instructor was taken aback when he had trouble doing assymetrics!:D
A quick basic lesson and he was right, ended up a SCC - his first twin was a A330!:E

That’s not a twin! That’s a PlayStation.

poteroo 28th Oct 2018 15:57

After 500 on C185, for TT 730 - 1st twin endo on mighty PA23 Aztec C by Cec Randall in POM 1967. Now there's a name for anyone's logbook!

SkysTheLimit1 28th Oct 2018 23:53

500 hrs and in PA-30 at MB

megan 29th Oct 2018 00:43

Zero hours, age 16 and a bit, left seat F-27 in the cruise. Debrief, turns a bit steep. Legal twin, about 11 years and 3,000 hours.

MALT68 29th Oct 2018 01:59

Twins are fun.

2 years after getting PPL and doing 200 hrs as SEA(P). Already had over 500 hours and 20 years in gliders (so I knew what to do when both donks quit ;-) ). Did conversion in BE76 at Parafield. Had long ground briefing about handling, speeds to fly, engine failures and how to handle them.

Comically, on my first orientation flight in the Duchess, there was a partial engine failure in the circuit (reduced power problem on climbout, we still had performance to complete a modified circuit to an unremarkable landing), so the training was cut short, and it was good to see how to handle engine failure.

I have done endorsement on: PA44 (Seminole, don't you love climbing across the co-pilot's seat), PA30/39 Twin commanche (fast with complicated fuel system), GA7 Gruman Cougar (big bubble cockpit, castor nose wheel), I now fly P68 Partenavia (my favourite to fly, although the passengers get to see your bum in the older models without a co-pilot's door, P68 drivers will know what I mean. It waddles as it taxis).

I certainly feel more comfortable going over tiger country or crossing water in one (yes, I am now waiting for the twins are more dangerous than singles bunfight, please refer to discussions elsewhere, they have been done many times over...).

For those who have ever flown out of YPPF to Murray Bridge would know about crossing tiger country (as a matter of fact, now most general aviation airports in Oz require you to cross tiger country to get anywhere...)

Fly safe and have fun

FL235 29th Oct 2018 06:43

poteroo, What Aztec were you flying with Cec? If it was one of Crowley's we may have crossed paths. The only dual I did for Laurie was a check cct with the CP, name forgotten, in CSC, the 205. Followed by immediate departure for TLF, YLR, GRN, WK and home to LA. A suspiciously neat 8:00 hrs logged for my first day at work,

I never flew with Cec, but he was well known in the diving club Sad story

ShyTorque 29th Oct 2018 08:02

111 hours. Westland Wessex Mark 5.
It was four years before I flew another single.

Alice Kiwican 29th Oct 2018 12:19

1000 hours 2 years BE55

Dora-9 30th Oct 2018 00:04

910 hours, then the mighty Beech 65 Queen Air.

Oakape 30th Oct 2018 01:32

15 months & 75 hours TT. In a PA39

ResumeOwnNav 30th Oct 2018 06:50

8 months after starting my first flying job in GA, 610TT. C310. 2008.

First_Principal 31st Oct 2018 04:52

This turned out to be a more interesting thread than I initially thought because it caused me to look back at my logbook and see that my initial twin flight was 0.5 at around 60hrs (in a BE76) and then a C-47 at around 90 hrs (I already had time in tailwheel craft at that stage). Both much earlier than I recollected.

Unlike others on here I managed to keep the C-47 straight enough on takeoff but I DO recall bouncing it on my first landing :ugh: I was just not used to being so high up (when on the ground) and those wheels were hanging somewhat lower than I thought on the last few feet of the approach... oops. Of course everyone was watching, but they had the decency to go inside and not say too much, for a while at least :\.

After that I finished my multi training on a GA-7 and the C-47, and then flew a number of other twins. I particularly enjoy them and consider myself lucky to have had the experiences I've had.

FP.

Runaway Gun 31st Oct 2018 07:09

I’ve heard a new Q-Link pilot got a Dash 8 gig only one year after CPL and about 320hrs total.

Flyboy1987 1st Nov 2018 02:50


Originally Posted by Runaway Gun (Post 10297478)
I’ve heard a new Q-Link pilot got a Dash 8 gig only one year after CPL and about 320hrs total.

Not unusual these days. Qlink can now either be a first job or where you go if you can’t get a piston twin gig.

i’m sure its a great job, but surely the standard would have to be dropping compared to the pilots they hired years ago?

outnabout 1st Nov 2018 23:18

Runaway Gun - the pilot may have a Dash 8 gig with 320 hours total, but I would be surprised if the duties involve anything other than making the Captain's coffee, and keeping the RHS seat warm.

dr dre 2nd Nov 2018 04:44


Originally Posted by outnabout (Post 10299326)
Runaway Gun - the pilot may have a Dash 8 gig with 320 hours total, but I would be surprised if the duties involve anything other than making the Captain's coffee, and keeping the RHS seat warm.

Well in most of the world (and a fair proportion of Australia) the typical first job is RHS of a Dash or ATR or 737 or 320. And they are doing far more than just coffee making or seat warming.

georgeeipi 3rd Nov 2018 07:54

I had my private pilot’s license and was building up to 200 hours for my CPL. My girlfriend at the time organised a trip for me to fly some friends over Lake Peddar, which was just being flooded. I wasn’t keen on crossing Bass Strait in a single so I got my initial multi endorsement in a Partenavia as well as my multi NVFR rating. For the trip I kept the load down to 4 on board, more expensive than fully loading the plane but kept the plane light if I lost an engine and made it safer given my low experience level. It was a great trip. As someone wrote above compared to the Piper Arrows I had been flying the Partenavia felt like an airliner.


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:02.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.