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Aye Ess 10th May 2011 08:46

Stationair,twas Hawker Pacific. The day I picked up the brand new,just out of the box VH-SQS at Archerfield,the sign writing had just been done & the paint was still tacky. Not many times I got to fly new aeroplanes in my career.

Jabawocky 10th May 2011 11:54

So was that operation also run by the Osbornes?

I went to school with the Osborne boys.......... Have not seen them since.

Skystar320 10th May 2011 12:47

Nice pictures Aye Ess! When did that operation shut down?

Aye Ess 10th May 2011 21:47

Jabawocky....I was Tangalooma's pilot in 1978,so,you would have still been in primary school playing hopscotch with the Osbournes then. Tangalooma had many owners over the years. When I was there it was owned by a group of 6 businessmen from the Gold Coast & Brisbane.

Skystar....in my day we also had Partenavia VH-FAB as well as the BN2. Some time after I moved on,the resort changed hands & the new owners had the a/c put onto Arthur Morris' line,but used for the Tangalooma run. Not sure of the timeline,but,at one stage they had a beaver on floats. Now guests travel by launch,so,I guess the air taxi side is no more.

CharlieLimaX-Ray 12th May 2011 06:56

Didn't the resort also operate the DHA Drover?

Aye Ess 12th May 2011 07:26

Yes,CharlieLima,they operated VH-AZS in the mid 70s. Last I saw of that aircraft was in the museum at Wangaratta over 20 years ago. Don't know where it is now.

CharlieLimaX-Ray 12th May 2011 07:51

Wasn't VH-EQT a 260hp Islander one of the first to be bought into Australia?

Aye Ess 12th May 2011 08:20

That may be true,I was only told that VH-AIA was the first...the rego was for Australian Islander A....subsequent a/c would have been AIB etc,could be a rumour. VH-AIA was a 260hp,and the new one VH-SQS was a 300hp with flaired wingtips & 4 fuel tanks....ah,happy times (sigh)

Capt Fathom 12th May 2011 12:54

First In Australia
 
How about VH-ISA or ISD.

I was told ISD was demostrated on and off one of HM's Aircraft Carriers. But that may have been just the Salesman's talk! :=

It was that long ago, I doubt any of us can recall exactly... :E

I flew both the 260 & 300hp versions in PNG. While the 300hp had the grunt, I found the 260hp version much nicer to fly (well there's an oxymoron) and easier to operate.

High 6 13th May 2011 08:52

Islander.... nambawan balus or in Oz speak... bloody good airplane!! Have many fun and occasional testing hrs in PNG bush ops and will always remember the magic number that saves ones skin.... 65 kts. :ok:

Pinky the pilot 14th May 2011 04:19


initially I thought,the islander was SO much fun,the Trislander being 50% bigger would be 50% more fun....OH.HOW.WRONG.I.WAS.
Dunno about that Aye Ess. Whilst I cannot comment personally on that; (only ever logged 3 hrs ICUS in one) As I remember the couple of Dz Pilots I worked with who were flying them didn't really seem unhappy with them. Tim E certainly didn't seem to mind flying P2-DNN on the Gulf run if I remember correctly.

21 years ago though so I may be mistaken.:hmm:

tail wheel 14th May 2011 06:48

One of the Douglas Islanders - was it VH-ATO? - won the London to Sydney Air Race around 1968 and carried wording to that effect on the fuselage.

I can only assume it was: the only aircraft in the race; it started in the 1967 race, finishing first in the 1968 race; or had one hell of a handicap. :hmm:

From Wiki - Variants:

BN-2
Prototype first flown in 1966 with two 260 hp Lycoming O-540-E4B5 piston engines.

BN-2A
Production version with minor modification from prototype and increased Takeoff weight.

BN-2A-2
A BN-2A with modified flaps, and two 300 hp Lycoming IO-540-K1B5 (fuel injected) engines.

BN-2A-3
A BN-2A-2 with increased wingspan and fitted with extra wingtip fuel tanks.

BN-2A-6
A BN-2A with wing leading edge modifications and two 260 hp Lycoming O-540-E4C5 engine.

BN-2A-7
A BN-2A-6 with increased wingspan and fuel capacity.

BN-2A-8
A BN-2A-6 with droop flaps.

BN-2A-9
A BN-2A-7 with droop flaps.

BN-2A-10
A BN-2A-8 with increased takeoff weight and 270 hp Lycoming TIO-540-H1A (turbo-charged, fuel injected) engines.

BN-2A-20
A BN-2A-2 with increased takeoff weight and minor improvements.

BN-2A-21
A BN-2A-3 with increased takeoff weight.

BN-2A-23
A BN-2A-21 with lengthened nose.

BN-2A-24
A BN-2A-26 with lengthened nose.

BN-2A-25
A BN-2A-27 with lengthened nose.

BN-2A-26
A BN-2A-8 with increased takeoff weight.

BN-2A-27
A BN-2A-9 with increased takeoff weight.

BN-2A-30
A BN-2A-20 fitted with floats. Twin floats were attached to the undercarriage legs and incorporated retractable landing gear.

BN-2A-41
Turbo Islander with lengthened nose, droop flaps and two Lycoming LTP-101 turboprops, first flown in 1977.

Britten-Norman BN-2B Defender
Defender military variant with 300 hp IO-540-K1B5 engines and underwing hard points and military modifications.

BN-2B-20
A BN-2A-20 with improved soundproofing and increased landing weight and other minor modifications.

BN-2B-21
A BN-2A-21 with Model B improvements.

BN-2B-26
A BN-2A-26 with Model B improvements.

BN-2B-27
A BN-2A-27 with Model B improvements.

A BN-2T at the 2010 Farnborough Airshow

BN-2T
Turbine Islander based on BN-2A-26 with two 320 shp Allison 250-B17C turboprops.

Islander AL.Mk 1
Twin-engined communications, reconnaissance aircraft for the British Army; seven built. Used for aerial reconnaissance and photography in Northern Ireland during Operation Banner. They were part of No. 1 Flight, Army Air Corps and were based at Aldergrove.

Islander CC.Mk 2 and CC.Mk 2A
Twin-engined communications aircraft for the RAF; three operated.

Maritime-Defender
Armed maritime reconnaissance and patrol aircraft.

BN-2A-III Trislander
Three engined Trislander, a stretched BN-2A with 18 seats and three 260 hp Lycoming O-540-E4C5 piston engines.

A float plane version....... :suspect:


"A BN-2A-20 fitted with floats. Twin floats were attached to the undercarriage legs and incorporated retractable landing gear."

SIUYA 14th May 2011 07:28

tail wheel...


A BN-2A-20 fitted with floats. Twin floats were attached to the undercarriage legs and incorporated retractable landing gear.
To see the...'amphibious BN-A'... goto cthornberg's post #3 at:

Float Equipped BN Islander? - Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums

:ooh:

I flew Islanders in PNG in the 70's with Macair in PNG. All I can say after looking at the picture referred to above is...thank Christ Macair didn't have this variant!

Tenmen 14th May 2011 08:28

The aircraft that won the air race was VH-ATX. Did many Kiunga to Ningrum shuttles at the start of the OkTedi exploration in it.

BN2's were great at what they were designed to do - short hops to short runways. Great fun in PNG.

Chimbu chuckles 14th May 2011 13:20

Please tell me that float equipped Islander never actually flew - imagine the state of the wing skins between the engine nacelle and the fuse after a water landing - woulda made the ripples people put in them in PNG look undetectable.

Oakape 14th May 2011 13:55

Mount Cook Airlines experimented with ski equipped Islanders for a while. I am told that the main gear legs kept cracking due to the stresses experienced when landing on snow & they eventally gave up with it.

This article in the November 1974 Flight International mentions them, although it says that the operation was satisfactory -

1974 | 1829 | Flight Archive

Maybe someone can shed more light on the matter.

I can only imagine that the stress of water take-offs & landings would be much greater than on snow.

Oakape 14th May 2011 14:39

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/.../Wilton1-1.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/.../Wilton2-1.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/.../Wilton3-1.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/.../Wilton4-1.jpg

Wilton parachute ops. I don't know the exact date, but it would be between the middle of 1983 & the end of 1984.

waveskimmer 14th May 2011 15:12

Only 200+hrs flying them ,fond memories,great machine :ok:

baron_beeza 14th May 2011 21:33

Yep, fond memories.

I have been both engineer and pilot on Islanders and Trislanders, often in some strange and out of the way places.

I am sure the Wiki list posted earlier is incomplete or inaccurate.The prototype had Continental engines. The most common aircraft are the -26 and -27 260 hp variants. Then the -20 and -21 300 hp versions, the tip tanks being the other difference.
The Trislander came in 3 flavours also, - the obvious one being the long and short nose varieties but also the FAA certified version with auto-feather.

For those that have flown the Islander and remember 65 Kts as being THE figure.... Then it it is much the same with the Trislander. Problem being you now have yet another number to memorise... 80Kts.

I have been to the factory in Bembridge but the Islander was also produced in other places about the place, - I think South America and Asia.

RadioSaigon 15th May 2011 00:30


Originally Posted by baron beeza
I have been to the factory in Bembridge but the Islander was also produced in other places about the place, - I think South America and Asia...

the Philippines and Romania....


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