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JohnMcGhie 20th Feb 2011 09:05

Why would Qantas choose the F100?
 
Given Alan Joyce apparently announcing that Qantas will acquire 10 Fokker 100s, I was wondering why they picked that model (from a manufacturer that is bankrupt and no longer trading)?

There seem to be quite a lot of alternatives:So I thought I would ask those likely to know: Why the F100? And how would you compare the aircraft in that list?

Having just stepped off a Boeing 717 today, I wondered why Qantas did not order more of those: they seem to be very reliable and nice to fly in?

I will be interested in the responses...

Mr.Buzzy 20th Feb 2011 09:09

Because the Mascot museum doesn't have any of those ones yet........

VH-UFO 20th Feb 2011 09:17

For fly in/fly out reasons.

There's a reason Alliance, Skywest and Network all use them...........

Flyingblind 20th Feb 2011 09:34

Hi UFO,
I have my thoughts as to why, but not part of that sector did wonder why Q picked (and others) the F100.

Not looking for any type of gos just why this frames above others.

Pin37 20th Feb 2011 09:36

[QUOTE I was wondering why they picked that model (from a manufacturer that is bankrupt and no longer trading)?]
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I was wondering how many of those aircraft on your list are still manufactured ?:confused:

Skystar320 20th Feb 2011 09:43

ummm Duh! Cause they are going to Network Aviation!
:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

cone zone 20th Feb 2011 09:50

Have I missed something?

Why Alliance? Wouldn't they go to Network ?

Icarus2001 20th Feb 2011 09:55

Well QANTAS didn't really. More like NETWORK, because they have two already and have the aircraft on their AOC, spares etc. The airframes are for FIFO not RPT, they seem to do an adequate job as do the B717 and Bae146/RJ so WHY NOT?

Spinnerhead 20th Feb 2011 09:59

That is exactly where they would go, skystar has just made a monumental fool of him/herself.

The Green Goblin 20th Feb 2011 10:22

It's the ideal FIFO machine. Low cost to acquire, cheap to operate, performs well in the dessert, can land on short strips that are weight limited, the seat pitch suits the beer bellied miners, and they look mint!

Oh, and the punters love 'em!

Capt Toss Dudley 20th Feb 2011 10:36

I think that is all they will be able to afford.:)

Worrals in the wilds 20th Feb 2011 10:44

I'd love to see a Tupolev or Yak in Qantas colours. That would be awesome :}.
Seriously, where are Qantas planning to source their F100s? I know Alliance buy them at the Nevada Desert garage sale, ferry them over and fit them out, is that the Qantas plan of attack as well?

Skystar320 20th Feb 2011 11:10

well a certain group has just purchased several FK100's from a European Airline. Suppose those would be headed to AUS!

RENURPP 20th Feb 2011 11:37

There seem to be quite a lot of alternatives:
Airbus A318 - :confused:
BAe 146- reputation precedes them, however as Cobham have proven, they do the job very well.
Boeing 717- too big 125 seats, too expensive, maybe ACN/PCN?
COMAC ARJ21- not at all familiar with this one, but too small, 2000 mts TORR sound a bit much unless they mean TODR in any case first of type and being a relatively new Chinese manufacturer, Not for me.
Bombardier Canadair Regional Jet- expensive and as Ansett/Kendals proved, don't do the job all that well.
Embraer E-Jets- ask Virgin about the E jet.
Fairchild Dornier 728 family- first of type with all the associated problems and 80 pax is probably too small.
Tupolev Tu-334- have o agree with WITW, :eek:
Yakovlev Yak-42D

Peter Fanelli 20th Feb 2011 12:21


Having just stepped off a Boeing 717 today, I wondered why Qantas did not order more of those: they seem to be very reliable and nice to fly in?
Probably because they are no longer in production.

Mickster 20th Feb 2011 12:21

I doubt Qantas would have announced the plan if they hadn't already arranged the purchase otherwise they might get caught out.

Why F100? Probably 'cause they are relatively cheap, a few spare parts in Australia as several operators using them. I'm guessing, but you could probably get 10 F100's for the cost of one B717.

No doubt someone out there in Ppruneland would have more accurate figures.

RENURPP 20th Feb 2011 12:36


Quote:
Having just stepped off a Boeing 717 today, I wondered why Qantas did not order more of those: they seem to be very reliable and nice to fly in?
Probably because they are no longer in production.
And the ****ers are. :confused::confused:

Peter Fanelli 20th Feb 2011 14:14

There is a company attempting to put the Fokkers back into production, although I wouldn't hold my breath. Maybe QF knows something we don't.

Fokker Aircraft

Sunfish 20th Feb 2011 20:24

The distances involved, the hot conditions and short runways, the need to operate without any GSE or support and provide what passes for a premium service to Pax are what dictate the F100 I suspect.

Xeptu 20th Feb 2011 21:27

Why would QF choose the F100's

Surely you guys see it, or is it just a case of reluctance to come out and say it.

QF intend to take XR on head to head in their own backyard, Network is simply the vehicle to do it.

As Network accquires XR's FIFO contracts, they will poach XR's F100 pilots, simple as that.

Now before you say why would XR's pilots do that, simply because they won't have much choice, if they want to continue flying the F100 and live in perth, there'll be no other options.

Like most pilots, choice of base "where you want to live" is the overriding factor in choosing who you work for. If there's a choice at all.


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