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VH-XXX 16th Oct 2010 09:09

It wasn't an engine failure!

cficare 16th Oct 2010 09:47

ABC radio said the Telstra mob had been manning and womaning a stand at the local Show....which is held next to YFLI

VH-VIN 16th Oct 2010 22:05

Why would you be safer in a 402 or PA31?. Engine failures in singles dont often kill you but they do in poor performace twins.
Most accidents in singles are not the engine stopping anyway.

AIREHEAD 16th Oct 2010 22:43

This is not a question of singles verses twins, Its a question of why a major company would put their staff on a VFR charter when there are alternatives of IFR charter or even better RPT

VH-VIN 17th Oct 2010 00:27

thats correct, IFR is the only way to go if you can, would a company know the difference?

Wally Mk2 17th Oct 2010 00:42

Look there's always a human element to a prang whether it be piloting skills or maintenance skills ( & other factors at times) either way lets learn from yet another accident that was this time a happy ending.:)


Wmk2

VH-XXX 17th Oct 2010 00:46

Happy ending for the passengers, happy ending for Gippy aero selling a replacement aircraft but not so happy for the insurance company or the Chief Pilot.

Jabiman 17th Oct 2010 01:55

According to local news reports:

'The Flinders Island Aviation Services GA8 had taken off from Lady Barron bound for Bridport before striking heavy cloud and attempting to turn back.'

CharlieLimaX-Ray 17th Oct 2010 02:12

Certainly speaks well of the crash worthiness of the GA-8.

VH-XXX 17th Oct 2010 02:34

These pictures give a good idea of where they went down!!!

Island crash pilot lauded Tasmania News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

MyNameIsIs 17th Oct 2010 02:42

Some companies and singles, they have no idea...

I previously worked for a company that frequently carried the workers for the state's power company. They were only allowed in our twins. Our aircraft were all powered by Lycoming 540's.
Same energy workers were allowed to fly in Lyco powered Robbo helicopters which were obviously VFR, and single. Same helicopter company also flew Telstra- but they were only allowed in the turbine machines, but still single.

Can anyone figure that out? :ugh:

Ixixly 17th Oct 2010 06:28

Insurance MyNameIsIs, some companies insurance says "Sure you can do this but you have to do it in X Aircraft type otherwise we won't cover you!", others don't stipulate such activities in the same detail. You'd really have to ask the risk people in each insurance company about how they've come to their conclusions!!

The Green Goblin 17th Oct 2010 07:10

Nice one, according to the news article the Pilot buggered off with the beacon :ugh:

cficare 17th Oct 2010 07:18

the pilot was the Chief Pilot..

VH-XXX 17th Oct 2010 07:39

He would have buggered off with the beacon because he knew exactly where he was thus he headed to the nearest road etc to await rescue, so taking the beacon in this instance was probably the sensible option. Didn't matter anyway as the passengers had iPhones with GPS coordinates and were in contact with rescuers.

Stationair8 18th Oct 2010 02:52

Let's see six Telstra employee's, that would include the following:

1 x IT person,
1 x OH&S person,
1 x Human Rescources person,
1 x Media/PR person,
1 x Management person and
1 x worker.

cavok123 18th Oct 2010 04:18

I highly doubt that the insurance company that he has/had will come to the party, might be a costly exersie for flinders island aviation

tasdevil.f27 18th Oct 2010 06:47

Especially being their 2nd Airvan claim within a couple of years......

Jabawocky 18th Oct 2010 07:49

So was this a VFR operation into IMC? Was the pilot Instrument Rated at all?

Sounds like commercial pressure all round.

Lucky they got away so cheaply!

VH-XXX 18th Oct 2010 07:53

Second claim maybe but does the wind blowing one over on the ground count?

Jaba, yes, no, yes, yes.


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