I have perfectly reasonable answers for every one you gripes mr NZHW, but I wont bother.

You, Sir, suffer from 'Back in MY Day' syndrome (*Purses Lips, Peers inquisitively over monocle*) :=

Welcome... to the 21st century. :}

Burn the Blue - With respect to my earlier comment re sub-standard training, I do accept your comment above that there has been in some cases a reduction in the standards of some of the students. But where I would also stand by my comment on the training, is that in some of the "sausage factories" there has definitely been an upsurge in the most recent graduates training the new students. Yes, the industry has always had newer and lesser experienced instructors training students, but it seems to have proliferated like never before with the large numbers of people going through training. Whilst I hesitate to use your expression "back in my day" the simple facts of the matter were that most of us were doing our CPL's IR's etc with extremely experienced long term instructors - and the extra knowledge that they were able to pass on was of great benefit. Everybody has to start somewhere, but I think it's fair to say that in some quarters there has been a diluting of instructional experience.

"The up side for the CAA when they cut student loans, is that if 80% of training crashes were from student loan providers, it could effectively cut the accident rate in the area by 80%, And they would look like they are doing there job."

First of all the CAA has nothing to do with the student loan scheme.

Secondly, to suggest that accidents might go down by 80% by cutting student loans is simply ridiculous. The only way that is reducing the accident rate is by reducing the number of students in the sky and doesn't address the causes of accidents which is far more complicated then just who is and isn't flying on a student loan.

Oh, and by the way, it's spelt SYLLABUS.

Not directly, correct. But when the number of applications for flight crew documents plummet, so will their revenue stream. Same for ASL. Imagine how much a CBT exam will cost when there's a) less people sitting exams and b) actually smarter people sitting and passing first time, rather than multi-sit dreamers.... :hmm:

There will be flow on effects for sure, including initial resistance from providers who have printed money from the current scheme and wouldn't want to see their bottomline's suffer.

S2K

"I aggree becos these schools can charge wot they like"

70% in spelling enough for a pass????

Good Idea
 

I believe cutting funding is a good Idea it will eliminate people who just sign up for some thing to do when they finish school and also mean there are less people going for the jobs. But in saying that I would not of became a pilot with out the funding so rather than cutting it, They could make an entry requirement of having a private pilots license, and maybe even completed some CPL subjects. Then when they see you are dedicated then they give you the loan for CPL hour building, flying and Multi engine instrument rating

Attention Jimmyconway
You describe my gramma and spelling as brutal ... Gess wot I aggree and no gramma and spelling were not a part of this job... ( just as well )
When I got this position 2 years ago they were more interested in weather I knew wot "Walker Circulation "was, and weather I could explain "Wing Walkdown" in one sentence. Wot my SP,O2 stats were and weather I new how to quickly and accurately do DA calculations. Once that was done they quickly wanted to know how well I flew.
Also you get judged so harshly on EI, Something every employer/ CP I have had, is watching. Companies are starting to inpliment a KPI system mainly initiated by there clients who really enjoy auditing there aviation suppliers. I currently fly turbines ( both F/W and Rotor ) in the highlands of PNG and occassionally accross into indonesia.

Piont taken and so true..... Yes it is not really how you funded your training it is who and how well you were trained. The student loan thingy has allowed inexperienced instructor in.

Introduce spell check to pprune

Professionally Unprofessional
NZH

Spelling
 

If you use google chrome, rather than internet explorer that has a built in spell check as you type.

Oh..... I am a I.T retard as well.....Goggle chrome... I will hire a geek when I get home.

:8

Rotor Pilots are different, a Kiwi one is something else.

Everyone (myself included) makes a grammatical or spelling mistake occasionally however the key is we try. I use google chrome and spell check as much as I can.

Your strings of sentences are a joke. Whether, their, I could go on.

Anyway back to my paperwork.

Anyone with anymore news on this subject - student loans for aviation courses that is, not English comprehension?

Most Tertiary education providers are now in the situation that they do not have enough funded positions to meet demand. This issue is not isolated to Aviation training only. They are dealing with the situation by applying re-entry criteria strictly as prescribed in their regulations. The upshot is, we will see more prospective students (and pilots) having to audition for places on training courses.

Not a bad thing!

Good to see the Grammer Police out in force again.....for F..Ks sake..

Do you mean Grammer police or grammar police? :E