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Section28- BE 29th Jul 2010 03:22

(Perth) Red Bull Air Race Cancelled- all events scheduled for 2011.
 
Ex- AAP...........:


Perth Red Bull race cancelled
From: AAP
July 29, 2010 12:27PM

THE Red Bull Air Race, which has brought more than $12 million to the Perth economy annually, has been cancelled for next year.


Organisers of the Red Bull World Championship have told the West Australian Government they have cancelled all events scheduled for 2011.

The decision means the event, which attracts hundreds of thousands of spectators and is watched by millions of TV viewers worldwide, will not be part of WA's events calender.

In 2008, Tourism Minister Liz Constable said the race returned over $12 million to the Perth economy "which is good for business, especially small business".

That year the WA Government announced the race would stay in Perth and would resume in 2010 for three consecutive years until 2012.

Tourism Chair Kate Lamont said today that Tourism WA would aggressively pursue new international events to replace the Red Bull Air Race and they were currently finalising a strategy to attract major events.

"The future is very bright on the major events front and I look forward to sharing some exciting developments in the near future which will bring to life WA's Experience Extraordinary brand," she said.

The Perth leg of the series had been proclaimed by event organisers, pilots and crew as the 'benchmark setting' event of the Air Race championship.

In 2010, Perth witnessed a spectacular plane crash in which former airline pilot Adilson Kindlemann plunged into Perth's Swan River during a practice run but escaped virtually unscathed.

The race, which was held at various locations around the world, involves 15 pilots completing time trials at speeds of up to 400km/h, whizzing through inflatable pylons above the Swan River.




BWickham 29th Jul 2010 03:50

Red Bull Air Race 2011 series cancelled?
 
Can anyone provide a separate source which confirms/dispells this report?

I've Googled it, but so-far it only appears in Australian media, and there's no mention on the RBAR website.

It'll suck if it has been canned. :(

Chadzat 29th Jul 2010 04:22

Looks like its been cancelled worldwide for next year pending drastic safety changes. May be back in 2011 but it all seems a bit up in the air.


Red Bull Air Race axed after safety concerns
LIAM PHILLIPS AND KATHERINE FENECH
July 29, 2010 - 11:46AM


The Red Bull Air Race has been cancelled worldwide, robbing Western Australia of its flagship tourism event.

Tourism WA has been informed that the organising body has axed all stages of the global event for 2011.

It is unclear if the race will have a future beyond next year, but the state's peak tourism body is already looking for a replacement event.

The Perth event's race director Drew Searle said the decision was taken by Red Bull two days ago, to allow for a "headquarters" restructure as well as the implementation of new safety measures.

Mr Searle said Red Bull was looking into "really exciting" safety measures being developed by their motorsports Formula One research and development team and didn't want to roll them out mid-season.

"We have a bunch of projects that are very close to fruition," Mr Searle said.

"What we don't want to do is have race pilots changing their whole aeroplane mid-season because that would be crazy, especially if you had 15 teams doing it at once."

He said the move would protect spectators and the assets of host cities and allow the "adequate amount of time to implement the safety changes".

Although he wouldn't elaborate on the changes, he said they would build on those used to rescue Brazilian pilot Adilson Kindlemann when his plane crashed into the Swan River while on a practice run in April.

Australian Red Bull pilot Matt Hall agreed safety concerns were probably behind the decision to pull the race next year as it had outgrown its current structure.

"Really it's just got almost to the point where it has got unmanageable, which was going to lead to safety problems," he told Radio 6PR.

"I have no idea what it means to Perth getting the race back."

Perth lord mayor Lisa Scaffidi said the decision had nothing to do with the quality of the Perth race, which she said was held up by organisers as a model event.

"It seems as though there's a complete stop and review of the event worldwide," she told Radio 6PR.

Eventscorp, the agency charged with attracting big tourism events to WA, was key in establishing the race in Perth. Executive director David Van Ooren said next year's race would be missed.

FokkerInYour12 29th Jul 2010 04:26

A few more details here:
Red Bull Air Race cancelled worldwide | Perth Now
Red Bull Air Race Cancelled In Perth

RBAR organisers are probably also pissed off about other countries (Hungary, Portugal) not giving approval too.

A radio interview I heard also blamed the GFC and contuing problems worldwide.

Dora-9 29th Jul 2010 21:07

Of course we all know Mr Searle always speaks the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth...

ForkTailedDrKiller 29th Jul 2010 21:23

Maybe the organisers finally realised that the Red Bull Air Races are boring as batsh*t!

Dr :8

PLovett 29th Jul 2010 23:33

Also possibly due to the vast amounts of money RedBull expend yearly on sponsorship over a vast number of "sports" and their private air force that they may be feeling the pinch. :uhoh: After all, running two Formula 1 teams would be enough to make anyones eyes water at the cost. :eek:

Section28- BE 29th Jul 2010 23:56

Thanks for that Doc:8

Not being a troll- but, you were half the reason I threw it up, given your previously expressed views on the matter...............

Is a buggar for PTH- but at least they maybe half a chance of getting it back up- so long as they don't have to rely on our regulator for an AOC.......

Rgds all
S28- BE

Wally Mk2 30th Jul 2010 02:46

This is indeed a shame but I guess safety & money never mix. Although I have to agree with the Dr:8 watching this race & pretty much all races is boring after a while it all boils down to money. Sponsorship is big business these days it pretty much governs how sports are run sadly. Footy is the worst Eg. Gone are the days where the players played for the No. on their backs & a box of 4 & 20 Pies with most players being tradies, now it's drugs sex & God knows what else! Slight thread drift but ALL sports are based on money with aviation having a safety barrier (if you look at it that way) mixed in amongst it.



Wmk2

FokkerInYour12 30th Jul 2010 10:35

If it was me organising the Red Bull Air Race in Perth I'd also incorporate:

Red Bull Air Races
Low level formations
A triathlon course around the river/King's Park
Motor/speed boats
Formation water skiiers
Dragon boat races

i.e. involve the crowd in all sorts of interesting things - not just aircraft.

Cobra 31st Jul 2010 06:50

Too true
 
Maybe the organisers finally realised that the Red Bull Air Races are boring as batsh*t!

Arguably the best aerobatic pilots in the world, doing bog laps around blow up pylons, albeit at low level & high Gs. Give them a box over the Swan River, & let them loose with some freestyle :D

Arnold E 31st Jul 2010 07:29


Give them a box over the Swan River, & let them loose with some freestyle :D
Now that's boring as bat sh#t. :E

WALSue 3rd Aug 2010 06:15

Confirmed now on the official site

You'll probably think I need my head examind, but I quite like the RBAR, if nowt else its a good excuse for a few holidays :}
Perhaps when they 'realize the full potential' they'll make it slightly less boring!

dudduddud 3rd Aug 2010 06:25

I don't think I've ever seen a

"really exciting"
safety measure before.

Is there such a thing? Examples?

Ultralights 3rd Aug 2010 07:02

if this is based on a safety measure, i cant help but think of the Reno air races, now they are boring, until someone spears in, and it happens quite regularly i believe.

Goat Whisperer 3rd Aug 2010 23:55

dududud...

Would an ejection seat count as an "exciting safety measure"?

aseanaero 4th Aug 2010 06:01

Who else thinks this safety issue review is a smokescreen to quietly back out of the whole thing forever ?

I read on another forum the Red Bull are also looking closely at their F1 teams next year as well.

Perthjay85 4th Aug 2010 07:46

with there team leading the F1 I highly doubt they will be looking at the red bull racing team.

possibly the toro rosso team.

But they still own 5 football teams so I really doubt its financial problems, I think they are genuinely trying to re-do the whole system and format. But thats just my opinion.

Cookie7 4th Aug 2010 09:33

aseanaero,

I agree with your first comment....

Code:

Who else thinks this safety issue review is a smokescreen to quietly back out of the whole thing forever?
They might pretend to have a safety review, but there has been no definitive mention of returning, only speculation. So therefore, I'm of the opinion that RBAR will be no longer after this weekends race in Lausitz, Germany.

spindoctor 4th Aug 2010 11:37

At the end of 2006 the budget for the races was 500 million Euro for the following three years. In 2007 they overspent it by 110%.
The plan was to have sponsors in place at the end of three years similar to F1 so that it was self sustainable.
At the end of this period the plan was to have the then current pilots coaching/managing younger pilots into the race, and again running it similar to the F1 (plus specially designed race aircraft etc).

All this comes just after Chris Meyer publicly withdrew his support of the Air Race with his MX Aircraft.

Draw your own conclusions.

WeeWinkyWilly 5th Aug 2010 01:20

You need more than Safety Enhancements to sell Red Bull as a spectator sport
 
Having watched two Red Bulls, I'm of the opinion that underwing paint-guns and attacks on spectators with cannister-droppable dye-filled water balloons would enhance the experience by introducing some audience participation.

Some ack-ack on the spectator craft would accord the pilots some incentive and sort the men from the boys. To level the playing field, it could be argued that aircraft attacks on spectator water-craft could also be permissible. For the night series you could issue the "onshore" and "at sea" crowd with green laser-pointers and high power xenon searchlights.

Instead of a winner, you could just "graduate the survivors". The whole concept needs some marketing development along the lines of the few enhancements suggested above. The Australian public prefer blood sports and "real" TV series, so it should go down well in a more survivalist format.

CASA could contribute by issuing random noise level infringements to the pilot participants and launching prosecutions against the non-survivors.

And what's with the air-filled collapsible pylons? Make at least one or two of them undetectably lethal with some wing-shredding internal steel hawsers. It's these little garish touches that add that "thrill the spectator" element that's so important for crowd appeal in auto and motor-bike racing. Just because it's an aerial spectacle shouldn't mean that we can't have the odd crispy critter outcome.
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Dangly Bits 5th Aug 2010 06:19

Why don't they follow F1 and have some night races? Somewhere really dark, and only have the pilon's lit up! Or even on fire!

Or have 2 race at the same time!

Now that would be interesting.

Nod in Aus 7th Aug 2010 04:10

Wadda ya want !
 
I'm an ex [female:rolleyes: - yeah !] motorbike racer :ugh: and most of you are http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/censored.gif tossers !
The Red Bull Air Races are amazing to watch. Even though I'm no pilot, I can sort of get the feel of what these racers are experiencing.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...milies/eek.gif
I'm waiting for helmet cam, real time pilot physiological readouts and possibly more instrumentation displays.
Plus real time pilot microphone transmissions would also add a bit of extra flavour.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/pukey.gif
It seems to my minimal mental musings that INSURANCE [& underwriting] ie the marauding money mega-monster http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ilies/evil.gif, is probably behind most of the mumbled malfunctionings of this most excellent series.
When topics are studiously avoided, follow the cents.
Pity that my much vaunted, valorous & vehemently vivacious Valentino [Rossi] doesn't fly !
[Off the ground, that is]

PS - More pretty pictures [icons] please ! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/tongue.gif

Nod in Aus 7th Aug 2010 04:20

Absolutely and catagorically !
 
Yes, I agree with myself ! :D

PyroTek 7th Aug 2010 09:08


Plus real time pilot microphone transmissions would also add a bit of extra flavour.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/pukey.gif
I doubt you'd hear much. I don't know about the racers and the like, but when I concentrate I'm dead silent...:ok:

M14_P 8th Aug 2010 05:23

I wholeheartedly agree that it is definately a coverup - RedBull are putting all their weight behind Formula 1 because it generates the most return, by miles, the other sports come absolutely no where.

I guess I am not alone, but being a regular of the unusual attitude flying variety, watching the air racing doesn't do it for me. I find solo competitive flying far more interesting. I guess that is just my preference anyway as freestyle jet skiing is my cup of tea, compared to jet ski racing, which I find boring as hell....

It is a shame that it has finished, as alot of the worlds top aerobatic pilots and well known display pilots have found themselves at what you could say is the top formula in competitive flying competition. Hope it returns, but it won't sadly i think.

fencehopper 8th Aug 2010 09:37

formula 1 is boring as. you see very little of the race when you are at the location. at red bull you can see the whole circuit, just check the crowd at RB air race it would have to be bigger than any F1 gathering no rip off ticket cost either and maybe that is the problem, stealing F1's thunder. great concept great presentation and the BEST thing to happen for sport aviation as far as getting joe public involved and educated. hope it returns.

sparcap 8th Aug 2010 14:44

I agree fencehopper!

As for the pilot mic, they do! "arrrggghhhhh".

Pulled 10g much Pyro?, it takes far less to cause me to make stupid noises involuntarily. Quite enjoy G, but certainly wouldn't want millions listening to my attempts to keep blood in thy cranium to the required pressure.

Take it for what it is, a comprehendible airsport format for the general public consumption, with some cool aircraft. Nothing more, nada less.

Sport aviation can do with as many friends as possible, this series is a great advertisement for the like.

Roll on 2012, and Red Bull, please stump up the funds for the continuation of what has been a great advertisement for your brand.


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