PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions (https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions-91/)
-   -   Is RACWA on finals? YOU WERE WARNED!! (https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/421311-racwa-finals-you-were-warned.html)

Engineer_aus 11th Sep 2010 07:34

Interesting to have been talking to a mate of mine who has said that there is a lot of advertising going on at the moment for the next bunch of hopefuls.

FokkerInYour12 11th Sep 2010 07:39

It's getting towards the end of the school year... Advertising to attract high school graduates just seasonal

Capn Bloggs 11th Sep 2010 08:39

SOPs

But for some reason that new building changed everything.
The drink-driving rules also had a lot to do with the decline in "social" activities.

Joker 10 11th Sep 2010 10:48

The drink driving rules had little effect compared to the Impost on members the "commercial " training created.

Making the club into a " commercial" operation with amateur managers spelt the death knell, reality it is only a matter of time, sad but true !

Arnold E 11th Sep 2010 11:00

Probably a combination of both situations.:sad::sad:

SweetnLow 15th Sep 2010 07:17

Guys this is sad news. What can be done? I very much enjoy learning to fly and to me, the staff who remember your name, the instructors that take more time than they should, and the other people i've met while at the club, flying and non-flying folk, will all be impacted if the end is truly near. Surely the business as a whole cannot be that close to going under?

Joker 10 15th Sep 2010 11:27

Yup, Tis surely terminal, amateurs pretending to be business people playing with stakeholders money ( the members) as if they are a forgotten people.

Members make a club, pretenders destroy all that goodwill.

Hard to replicate, concessions foregone, a management car crash.

Cheap building in the end for the next occupant.

Was really a dream castle, tore the real club apart.

nottoospicy 17th Sep 2010 00:31

As a RACWA member since the early 90's, and later a CPL student there, last year I made the decision not to renew my membership. Quoted 5 hours flight time plus briefings just to achieve "RACWA currency" so that I could private-hire one of their aircraft. There are other operators at YPJT with a much more practical and personal approach ( and with more modern aircraft) and that's where my limited budget has to be directed. Also the insular nature around the club would have its members believe that all the competitors were sub-par in terms of safety and quality (training and aircraft), with RACWA the pinnacle of aviation training. This is simply not the case, and it's not until leaving the confines of the club that this becomes clear... As times get tighter for perople financially, I think there is a tendency for folks to do a bit more research on which school to choose. This has to be eroding their base..

Green_pilot_79 24th Sep 2010 08:52

Racwa member here- have not flown with them for ~ 6 months as im ppl looking at going onto cpl with new a/c.

Had enough of all the bull**** and been waiting way way too long for new a/c and theres nothing. They dont care for members anymore its all about that cash cow for them. Look at members get the new a/c get ride of the 10 planes that sit there and dont get utilized.

Have done some reaserch and there are alot better options at other schools. Allthough the intructors I have had at racwa are great i fear that if nothing comes within the next month or 2 I will resume my training elsewhere :(

LJones 29th Sep 2010 10:37

Already at that point ^^^

I think the it has more initial attraction to more people, being seen as a big company where people think bigger is better to start off with.
Then after a few month they see that, just like anyother big company, they are after more and more profit.

I wish i was able to make my choice again, due to the fact of the constant price rises, ive spent 50+ k in getting my CPL, not even there yet. Now im working two jobs to be able to keep the dream alive. Even then the light at the end of the tunnel is slowly burning out.

Johnny_56 5th Oct 2010 14:38

Any news come out of the AGM??

I learnt to fly at RACWA 10 years ago, I don't think their fleet has changed much in that time (maybe got 10 years older)

When i was there it seemed like the best place on the strip to learn, big company, lots of aircraft parked out the front, all the bells and whistles. It even had a pub on top of it!!

Although I wouldn't want it fail completely I think it needs a drastic overhaul, clean out the dead wood and start again with a new plan. Too many stale ideas and delusions of grandeur around the place

SOPS 5th Oct 2010 14:53

To Captain Bloggs
 
Yes you a correct mate in a way..but you and I grew up in that place, and your mum and dad were one of the "rocks" of the outfit. And the weekend nights that carried on to weekend mornings to a certain house on the river were part of history..but when that new building came, it was like the soul was removed..something changed. (Member for 36 years)

sisemen 11th Oct 2010 14:12

Any updates? Whilst only a past member it would be a pity if it were to fold.

Nirak 27th Oct 2010 05:37

Racwa
 
:confused: Any updates ??

Capn Bloggs 29th Oct 2010 06:31

It would seem that the "I know nothing about aviation" expert has left the place in a mess. :=

Nil defects 29th Oct 2010 08:06

Yes the previous CEO and President have left the place reeling. Their incompetence has left a once healthy club with a huge debt.

We can only hope that the new CEO, President and committee can work together to work their way through it. The club in it's history has recovered before and hopefully it will again.

I for one, certainly have much more confidence in the new team. They are all long time members and have it's interest at heart. They, unlike their predescessors have aviation knowledge - so the club has to be better off than it has been for the last few disastrous years.

FokkerInYour12 29th Oct 2010 10:03

Is it true that a special administrator was apointed recently?

Nil defects 29th Oct 2010 10:52

No, not that I have heard.

Nirak 30th Oct 2010 00:09

Jonny 56, as you said.....
 
Although I wouldn't want it fail completely I think it needs a drastic overhaul, clean out the dead wood and start again with a new plan. Too many stale ideas and delusions of grandeur around the place

:ok:

Ex FSO GRIFFO 6th Nov 2010 04:26

UH - OH...!!
 
To ALL interested RAC Members - who will receive the 'Tarmac Topics' very very soon.....and interested 'other parties'....

IT AIN'T PRETTY.....

The news, that is.:{

Apparently 'previous management' left a LOT to be desired, and a host of 'external factors' outside the Club's control, including the GFC, the Aussie Dollar and its effect on the WAAC, resulting in lost sales etc. - have all taken their toll.:eek:
The issues are many and varied.:confused:

There is a level of debt which has to be 'satisfied' - A 'restructure' of finances / management etc. - and MEMBERS are ALL being asked basically, and with apologies to the late JFK.....

Not, what can my Club do for me, but, what can I do for MY CLUB?? :D

Cheers, and all the very best to all :ok::ok:

"Now is the time to come to the aid of the Party"........:D:D


All times are GMT. The time now is 14:29.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.