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frigatebird 24th Jun 2010 09:46

The Keystone of Character

This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3








The small courtesies sweeten life; the greater ennoble it.
Christian Bovee.

Worrals in the wilds 24th Jun 2010 11:16

If we're talking Shakespeare...

Et tu, Brute? Then fall, Caesar!
(Julius Ceasar)

If we're talking Dante and retribution for traitors...

"That soul up there which has the greatest pain,"
The Master said, "is Judas Iscariot;
With head inside, he plies his legs without.
Of the two others, who head downward are,
The one who hangs from the black jowl is Brutus;
See how he writhes himself, and speaks no word.
And the other, who so stalwart seems, is Cassius.
But night is reascending, and 'tis time
That we depart, for we have seen the whole."
(Dante's Inferno. Circle 9)

Andu 24th Jun 2010 11:29

Interesting to me is another "only in Australia" aspect to today's development.

Is there another country in this world that someone can immigrate to (as 10 Pound Poms?) with their 3 year old daughter in tow and have her end up as Prime Minister of that country? Not even the Americans can claim that. Their top (wo)man must be born in the country. (Although some believe that Barak Obama might have side-stepped that particular requirement witha bit of ceative birth certificating.)

Desert Flower 24th Jun 2010 11:40


I think what gets most people in Australia, is that we regularly end up with a leader that no-one voted for!
The trouble with political jokes is that they get elected! :ugh:

DF.

TBM-Legend 24th Jun 2010 11:46

with so much 'blubbering' :{:{:{:{:{:{:{:{:{:{:{:{Julia can appoint Krudd to the Whaling Commission...

........or were they crocodile tears???:E

PS: All we need right now in our industry is for that dill Albanese :yuk: to lose Transport/Aviation in the next reshuffle.

Timber 24th Jun 2010 12:09

Whatever one's opinion was of Kevin Rudd as a PM, he was still the elected PM of Australia. He deserved to be judged by the people who elected him in an election and not be executed in the dark of the night by a mob of so called power brokers and union thugs. What a terrible disgrace for Australia this 24th of June 2010 has become.

Arnold E 24th Jun 2010 13:20


What a terrible disgrace for Australia this 24th of June 2010 has become.
Please tell me your not serious.:(

TBM-Legend 24th Jun 2010 13:22

we don't vote for the PM. He is elected by the party that wins ofice. Krudd was not elected by popular vote. The ALP won the erection...:eek:

Agree that Julia Iscariot is a puppet [or muppet] of the faceless system...:hmm:

Dances With Dingoes 24th Jun 2010 13:43

Be warned
 
Hell Hath No Fury Like An Angry Ranger.

Trust Me I Know :(

The Wawa Zone 24th Jun 2010 14:51

Oh well, its been an interesting day but now its over.
Really, how big a deal is this ? None of the current characters are of any real stature; is there a Menzies, Ben Chifley, Frazer or Keating anywhere in this - no. With Rudd, Gillard, Abbott all we have are the equivalents of Billy Snedden, Billy McMahon, or Arthur Calwell or any other names who appear in history as names only.
Has anyone thought about what Gillard and Abbott are actually going to achieve, or is it telling that most people are only thinking about how today's change will affect the mechanics of the next election, but thinking nothing more ?

In terms of political leadership, we're still just rattling along, and its' not going to change. Julia Gillard did not inspire any Caucus blocks to get in behind her; instead she was installed by various left wing factional leaders (eg., Bill Shorten - there's an inspiring character... :) ). It was really just business as usual.

Has any political leader, ie., someone with the ability to inspire others to act on his/her vision of their future, voiced a position on, and an intention to act on:
- Australia's energy requirements (even Vietnam is building eight nuclear power plants),
- an Australian Republic (or if it's not broken, why fix it ?),
- the Australia-wide housing shortage (where feasible solutions seem to include 40m2 residential units),
- the widening rich/poor gap,
- the undiscussed health crisis which exists in the form of Australian taxpayers financing the poor but readily available and cheap lifestyle choices of about six million overweight or diabetic or heart disease afflicted people ?

Aussie Aussie Aussie !

Yo....

boofta 24th Jun 2010 19:59

Abbott missed a great oportunity to welcome the BULLDOGS FULLFORWARD
into the lower house as the new prime minister. But seriously, the only real
achievement of avoiding a downturn these labor idiots crow about will be
a greater FUTURE recession. This will be paid for by tax increases on the
next generations, most of their waste will cost our kids jobs later.
At least the timing of this affront to our political process stopped Rudd
going on his G20 junket, but all's well Mr Swan left yesterday, after all
it was a good time to be out of town, and give him time to wash knives.


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