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training wheels 15th Apr 2010 22:17


Originally Posted by j3pipercub (Post 5635533)
And you know what TW, planky is back! Wierd coincidence...

Yeah, he's back to do the analysis for us since ATSB won't be investigating this one. :E

BGRing 15th Apr 2010 22:38

Tip Stall
 
OK So there is Supposedly no such thing as a tip stall. So let me just reword that to One wing dropped and the other popped.

Left wing dropped due to over reaching the Clmax AoA with Aileron down. and the other wing would have more lift than that wing for the brief moment.

It baffles me as to why it did regain lift and not continue to roll over.
looks very similar to the SU27 flight in the Ukraine.
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9dwSRHaN98&feature=related"
look at the 35-36 second mark of that one.

I would like to get a raw vid of the Brazilian Swan dive so I/we could pause and frame advance. especially the one mounted on the rudder.

Capt Fathom 15th Apr 2010 22:58

It crashed.....!

BGRing 15th Apr 2010 23:24

YouTube - Red Bull Air Race Plane Crash In Perth Pilot Adilson Kindlemann OK www.AirCrashObserver.com

second guessing myself. Not a Stall.

He did it.

He inputted more left roll aileron to get back to 90 Aob and went beyond 90. doing so would be a good choice to regain low level but it seems to have been for to long.

Not a stall.:ouch:

Im now going to go back to stelth mode. and keep my mouth shut :oh:

Skystar320 15th Apr 2010 23:25

http://www.walrusmagazine.com/blogs/...8/armchair.jpg

Atlas Shrugged 15th Apr 2010 23:47


Now we just need Dunza to fly the ATSB investigators over in one of his Caravans, Planky to take the lead role in the initial investigation and release the interim report along with roxy to explain the aerodynamics of an inverted glide and how weight would not affect it.

Glad to hear the fella survived. Even the best sometimes find themselves up the creek without a paddle.

Oh don't forget sunny blaming it on Qantas

Haven't missed anyone have I?
Yep! There is sure to be some turkey who can't use the search button starting a thread called "What is the Best Aerobatic School in Perth, preferably close to the Swan River" ;)

mickjoebill 15th Apr 2010 23:58

Hope the bloke on the ladder in picture 18 had a lucky escape too....http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif


Red Bull Air Race plane crashes


Mickjoebill

j3pipercub 16th Apr 2010 00:01

Yeah Atlas,

We now need OZBUSDRIVER to post a pic of Google Earth and tell us all what he would have done...

j3

TexanPilot 16th Apr 2010 02:07


when you can quite clearly see the engine working!
:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh: :ugh::ugh:

PLovett 16th Apr 2010 04:58


and look for someplace handy to put it down at his leisure - like an orphanage. Or an old folks' home.
..........or the Brooker Highway. :}

cirrus driver 16th Apr 2010 05:05

Air race crash
 
Perth local paper confirms the pilot was a BRAZILIAN and that he had a CLOSE SHAVE !!!!!:

das Uber Soldat 16th Apr 2010 06:18

didnt someone make that joke already like 3 pages ago? :}

Flying Binghi 16th Apr 2010 06:24


We now need OZBUSDRIVER to post a pic of Google Earth and tell us all what he would have done...
OZBUSDRIVER would say that if an ADS-B unit were installed then the pilot would not of pranged..... :}




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VH-XXX 16th Apr 2010 06:39

The sooner CASA mandate ground proximity warning devices for non-rpt aircraft below 5700kg's this crap won't keep happining.

OZBUSDRIVER 16th Apr 2010 06:53

I am just slain by the wit exhibited on this thread....at least Brazilian and Wet in the same sentence had promise.:}

apollo85 16th Apr 2010 10:47

ATSB recruits
 
The reason ATSB aren't investigating is because they can just find out what happened on good ol' PPRUNE! There is NO money to be made in GA, maybe you could all earn the big $$ being consultants for ATSB :}

Just the way media reporters scout this page aafter an accident, as do ATSB investigators!!

brns2 16th Apr 2010 11:49

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if the FA18 is doing a display this weekend? and which day?

Cant seem to find anything on the program

remoak 16th Apr 2010 12:46

Why? Are you expecting it to ditch...? :}


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