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Mail-man 26th Mar 2010 07:18

Bankstown Airport Meter parking
 
Rumour has it that BAL (Bankstown airport limited) are going to impose meter parking around bankstown airport.

As far as i can see GA training in BK already has one foot in the grave.

With impending pilot shortages and training in the toilet, how many more obstacles can be imposed on GA before there is some sort of gov't intervention.

YPJT 26th Mar 2010 08:15

I wouldn't put anything past BAL but I wonder how they will go recovering unpaid fines? The WA dept of infrastrucure recently found itself in very hot water indeed passing on registered vehicle owner details to private companies.

smiling monkey 26th Mar 2010 08:23

How much does BAL currently charge for landing charges (say for a C172) and aircraft parking?

Arnold E 26th Mar 2010 08:43


With impending pilot shortages and training
You cant be serious??

KittyKatKaper 26th Mar 2010 08:55

Charges
 
Two seperate entities, two seperate invoices.

BAL (or whatever they call themselves this week) charge (light) aircraft parking at about $13 per tonne per day, the discount for payment in advance is not worth the loss of cash-on-hand plus the loss of bank interest.

ASA charge around $15 per full stop movement.

Mail-man 26th Mar 2010 10:42

With regards to pilot shortage and training in the toilet, theyre just personal observations of the decline in flight schools, aircraft movements and cpl's being issued to australian students.

Peter Fanelli 26th Mar 2010 10:46

Flying training must be falling off if the schools are trotting out the pilot shortage ruse again.

K3nnyboy 26th Mar 2010 11:11

I think BAL is trying to kick out some flying school so that they could make room for Regional carriers such as REX??

Surely they'd be running low on $$, cos they've been doing alot of construction work around right??

by the way, as far as I know, did one of the flying school close down recently at YSBK??

LeadSled 26th Mar 2010 14:07


I think BAL is trying to kick out some flying school so that they could make room for Regional carriers such as REX??
Folks,
With the recently announced 6000% (yes, 6000, that's not a typo) increase on the GA apron at Mascot, anything is possible. The new rate (if the Minister and ACCC sit on their blots) will be a minimum of $35 per 15 minutes. Rex are screaming like mad. The GA apron is not subject to the price restrictions at the terminals ---- but 6000% should get somebody's attention??? ---- paying the same for a small GA aircraft and an A380???

If SACL get away with this, imagine the try-on we will see from BAL.

No more light/night freight at Mascot, the GA apron is one of the areas where a shopping development has already been knocked back.

Tootle pip!!

nick2007 27th Mar 2010 04:29

I heard a similar rumour about parking limitations at Bankstown airport a couple of years back, thankfully nothing became of it. There are always rumours about BAL, and there are lots of suspicious folk at BK.

Mind you, it should go nicely with the 10km/h speed limit on Airport Ave. :rolleyes:

OZBUSDRIVER 27th Mar 2010 04:39

Leadsled, Dick seems to listen to your advice. Convince him to take up this argument with the government..Parking space is far more important than airspace changes. GA needs room to do business. GA needs to be treated the same as any mode of transport. Convince Dick, aprons and runways are PUBLIC ROADS. AND not just any public road but a National Highway.

The Feds didn't think this through. It was one thing to sell off the leases, it was another to give control over the movement areas of those leases. Ask the local council how hard it would be to close one of the streets on the public side of the fence because you want to build a shopping mall.

Dick could actually win this! I would rather remember him for saving the aerodromes rather than the huge mess he is creating in airspace reform.

Cummon Dick, howaboutit:ok:

LeadSled 27th Mar 2010 04:46


With impending pilot shortages and training
You can't be serious??
Well, Arnold, the Government thinks so, hence pilots being on the 457 visa lists, and the number of sponsored pilots coming into Australia on said 457 visa.

Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Philippines, Japan, Zimbabwe and South Africa nationals have relatively recently come into Australia. Obviously, this is federal Government's answer to training and experience problems in flying training in Australia.

Actually, it is not much different to what is going on with skilled labor in WA and Queensland generally, where foreign nationals on a 457 are preferred, for the several obvious reasons.

We might have quite a few unemployed CPLs around, whether they are employable or not is another issue altogether.

Tootle pip!!

K3nnyboy 30th Mar 2010 00:39

YUP~~~they made me go-around (drove-around) in my car for no particular reasons on the weekend. Sooner or later we're gonna have to get Clearance from 119.9 to transit through Tower Road~~~:suspect:

GoNorth 30th Mar 2010 01:07


Anyone else notice the lack of "road work" on the link road despite it being closed for "road work", good one BAL, nicely done there
If you're talking about Tower Rd then the "closed for road works" no longer exits as BAL have decided to close it permanently!

K3nnyboy 30th Mar 2010 01:37

is it because they're extending RWY Centre?

Ultralights 30th Mar 2010 07:20

no, quite simply its cheaper to close the road than to maintain it.

KittyKatKaper 30th Mar 2010 09:33

Somehow with BAL, It would not surprise me if that had been the plan all along.
Another day, another day of increased charges, another day of reduced services

Horatio Leafblower 30th Mar 2010 10:06


Folks,
With the recently announced 6000% (yes, 6000, that's not a typo) increase on the GA apron at Mascot, anything is possible. The new rate (if the Minister and ACCC sit on their blots) will be a minimum of $35 per 15 minutes.
Leadsled

I am a regular user of DOM5. I have checked the SACL website and their pricing options but can't see any such notification.

Can you point me to a document so I can put it in the right hands?

Ta.

goin'flyin 31st Mar 2010 03:08

Horatio - check your work email - copy of the letter has been sent to that.

Cheers.

Horatio Leafblower 31st Mar 2010 04:19

Thanks GF.

Holy crap :eek:

So parking a Baron at DOM5 from 8am to 4pm = 8 hours x 4 x 38.50 = $1380 in parking.

When the airports were privatised the Howard Govt justified it by calling it "competition".

Nothing like handing your mates a monopoly business, eh? :rolleyes: :mad:


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