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Hasherucf 4th Feb 2010 07:37

Engine failure. Not a PT6 for a change
 
Fresh off the ABC website a fairly impressive failure on what looks like a Titan.

Plane's engine explodes mid-flight - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r508563_2735051.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r508573_2735227.jpg

Wally Mk2 4th Feb 2010 07:58

Oh what a nice peace of work there, well done to the driver:D Says a lot for twins me 'tinks even piston ones:ok:
Great pix too, action shot, gotta love interactive visual media:)

The Gitso's are a great engine but like all recip engines they are under constant stress.
Many years ago (over 10) there was one of our planes that had an eng failure (same airframe as subject here pre Beech) in IMC did an NDB to the Min on one donk & missed out climbed en-route in the circuit area to LSALT then set course to do another NDB at another location only to get visual at the last few seconds & land. The paramedic I had the pleasure of flying with some years latter when we had a very scary event also (severe turb). Said paramedic now keeps feet firmly on the ground:) If I see said paramedic heading towards a plane I run!:}

Now if it had have been a PT6 & only one of them then the flood gates would open up here:}


Wmk2

frigatebird 4th Feb 2010 08:03

'Well Done', to the pilot. Thats why having two fans for commercial ops is such a good idea. The other one helped keep him cool too. A Titan is it ?

The Green Goblin 4th Feb 2010 08:28

A titan for sure.

I'm guessing the turbo let go?

I miss the sound of those gitzoes, I would miss it even more when one stopped.

Good job, by the stripe down the Nacelle I'm assuming it's an ex Skytrans bird?

ab33t 4th Feb 2010 09:31

I know the feeling its amazing both keep me cool and as soon as one stops the cooling is not enough and the sweat breaks out

FourBalls 4th Feb 2010 23:17

Well done to the pilot.:ok:

Titan VH-ANP of GAS in Kal. Used to be Air Norths

bushy 5th Feb 2010 04:36

Who says piston twins can't fly on one? If the pilot does it right they can.
Sometimes it is not easy.

Jet_A_Knight 5th Feb 2010 04:38

At least THAT one's easy to identify.:ok:

Counter-rotation 5th Feb 2010 05:04

Bushy,

The aircraft DOES have to do its part too... :ok:

CR

Towering Q 5th Feb 2010 07:32

FourBalls....nothing as exciting as that ever happened to us when flying the "Binford"!!

Nice work Don...you're White Rat material now son!!!

krankin 5th Feb 2010 08:04


Who says piston twins can't fly on one? If the pilot does it right they can.
Sometimes it is not easy.
Ten Bucks says it wasnt fully loaded. Thats a BIG factor in the success of such an event in a piston twin!

K

Wally Mk2 5th Feb 2010 08:24

'Krankin' you would be correct there the plane here would obviously not be fully loaded but have a read of my last post. Our Co A/C was close to AUW when it had to do a SE go-around off an App & climb to LSALT b4 heading off to do it all again, on one piston donk in IMC! I think Vh ANP is an ex RFDS rig?
I find the secret to handling a twin with one engine just coming along for the ride is to get the auto pilot on as soon as possible (if avail obviously) that way let 'george' keep the blue line nailed as that's not easy to do under real eng failure conditions especially at night in IMC.
Now how do you break up the flight hrs upon arrival for yr log book after such an event?:}

Wmk2

Arnold E 5th Feb 2010 09:05

Errr, What sort of auto pilot are you talking about in aTitan? Speed control?????

Wally Mk2 5th Feb 2010 09:20

Yes IAS lock & as I said if available. At the very least pitch control.


Wmk2

Arnold E 5th Feb 2010 09:26

Can you tell me the type of A/P you are talking about, I am not familiar with that one on a Titan with speed control:confused::confused:

sms777 5th Feb 2010 10:31

Speed control is your right hand that slams every available lever to the firewall when **** hits the fan in a piston twin.

Arnold E 5th Feb 2010 10:36

TRUE, no analog autopilot that I know of..
Unless, ofcourse, you are flying from the right seat, which means the left hand does all the work:E

Jamair 5th Feb 2010 13:50

A few years ago a Skytrans 404 had an engine let go enroute to Yorke Is. As I remember it, (and anyone who has clearer recall feel free to jump in) the driver correctly shut it down and secured the dead 'un - which included pulling the warning U/C CB to shut up the horn bleating about one throttle being closed with the gear up, and diverted to Horn. When he got to HID, he made a normal visual approach but didn't get any gear position lights, so did a go-around - but left the gear down. Even with the gear down, heavily loaded and OEI, that bloody amazing aeroplane stayed airborne and came back for another go - this time he remembered the U/C CB also controlled the U/C position indicator lights.......

My favourite piston twin.

B200 my favourite turbine twin.

PC12 & C208 about tied for my favourite single.

Gidday Wally!:) Mate they're ALL twin hours for the book - the regs say twin engine aeroplane, don't say nuthin' about both engines having to be actually RUNNIN'! And your paramedic mate had probably heard what happens to a Jonas on board ship; didn't want to see if the same applied in the air!

krankin 5th Feb 2010 18:02

'Wally',

I am still stuck in machines which are fitted with what i would have thought was standard GA fare: next to nothing in terms of optional extras like speed control!!! But for a piston twin to pull that off is certainly encouraging!Well done to any driver who gets one back home after one letting go on them!

K

rcoight 5th Feb 2010 20:34

An Aerostar I used to fly a lot had an "IAS" mode on the autopilot.
Worked pretty well too - used it all the time in the climb.

Well, that is on the 1% of occasions when the autopilot itself was working...


Great photos, and well done to the pilot of the Titan.


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