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Concorder 4th Feb 2010 05:56

military call signs
 
Here's one for the 'older' ATCers or RAAF pilots.

The RAAF Hercules used to go by the call sign JL'x'. i.e. JLM, JLF etc
The Orions by JD'x'
The BAC111's were NLG and NLH

Does someone out there know what the HS748's went by??????

protectthehornet 4th Feb 2010 06:48

I heard they were so slow...they didn't go by anything! ugh

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 4th Feb 2010 06:57

Try the Spotter's Forum....

DeeJayEss 4th Feb 2010 07:08

These aren't really 'callsigns' are they? Maybe registrations?

BoeingMEL 4th Feb 2010 07:23

..and is this a rumour?
 
...or news?:confused:

Tidbinbilla 4th Feb 2010 07:40

Not in the last 29 years that I've been flying. They've always had a descriptive callsign. Perhaps the RAAFies could elaborate to the origin?

TID

Horatio Leafblower 4th Feb 2010 08:06

Didn't they use a "VM" prefix and a pseudo-civil rego? :confused:

Pretty sure I remember the (ex RAAFie) guy who taught me to fly telling a story with something about this.

... still... :zzz:

quadradar 4th Feb 2010 08:10

748 Callsigns
 
Think they were all "JULIET VICTORS ....."

And the SP2H were XRAY DELTA .... !":8

Bedder believeit 4th Feb 2010 08:21

I was a controller in Canberra from '78 to '88 and the following applied to 34 SQN aircraft:

The two HS748's were NLA and NLB
The three Falcon 20's were NLD, NLE and NLF
And the two BAC 111's were NLG and NLH

When they were flying internationally ie one of the BAC's to NZ, then they used "AUSY ----" with the aircraft "A" hull number

The 5 SQN Helo's went by the name "EAGLE ----"

uncle8 4th Feb 2010 09:06

The East Sale 748s were JVs

tipsy2 4th Feb 2010 10:44

Naughty Tiddles said

They've always had a descriptive callsign.
I suppose he means like "Wombat or Stallion"

Descriptive indeed:=

The alphabetical 'rego's were released to the civil authority(mid 70's I think) as they were running out of there own rego's to allocate. The military then started using the Mission/Squadron/Task rootwords & numbers we are familiar with today.



Tipsy:ok:

no more nite flights 4th Feb 2010 14:43

HS748
 
In my days,known affectionately as the Budgie!!

dogcharlietree 4th Feb 2010 19:28

Yes. Back in the good old days, we used prefix of VM (military) as opposed to VH (civil). Domestically we would use JDx. Internationally initial call to ATC would be VM-JDx and after initial contact, it would be shortened to VDx.
In fact on some squadrons, the JD indicated the squadron and the x was normally the first letter of the captains surname. Now that's personalised :ok:
re 748's all I can remember about them is that bl00dy mongrel APU SCREAMING!:mad:

Stikybeke 4th Feb 2010 19:53

I seem to remember them using " Hudson " or "Howler??" (I could be wrong about Howler...something like that anyway...) when they turned up here or there.....

Stiky
:)

Concorder 4th Feb 2010 21:50

thanks...no def call signs

Concorder 4th Feb 2010 21:52

thanks bedder believeit
 
Thanks for that...NLA/NLB rings a bell now!:)

Eljay 4th Feb 2010 22:59

This is the list they use now.
Not entirely correct but close.

Royal Australian Air Force RAAF Callsigns

Philthy 5th Feb 2010 21:49

In the 'olden days' military aircraft were allocated radio callsigns in the blocks with the prefixes 'VL' and 'VM' as dogcharlietree indicated.

To summarise, the International Radiotelegraph Convention in Washington, USA, in 1927 produced a revised table of Nationality and Registration markings for aircraft and other radio call-signs. These recommendations were duly adopted by ICAN in June 1928.

The Commonwealth of Australia was allocated the prefixes VH, VI, VJ, VK, VL and VM. Since the Dominions and Colonies did not have a vote at ICAN until about 1929, the allocation of 'VH' was probably made arbitrarily.

These prefixes were allocated as follows:

VH - civil aircraft
VI and VJ - Coastal Radio Stations, which communicated with ships at sea and, in the early days, with aircraft
VK - Amateur Radio
VL and VM - military aircraft post WWII

You can read more at Airways Museum / Civil Aviation Historical Society - do a site search for 'registration markings of Australian aircraft'.

Down at the Museum we have the Tower logs for Avalon for about 5 years in the '60s - makes very interesting reading as all the callsigns and types of every aircraft are listed, including some very unusual visitors from overseas!

Cheers,

Philthy :ok:

DeeJayEss 5th Feb 2010 22:56

Hudson was right for the ESL 748s, that callsign now being adopted by the KA350s. The 350s, while attached to ALG, were Beaufort.

Not Howler - one of their formation callsigns was Howlettes. :ok:


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