Beowulf? Nice one Brian. :ok:

I reckon even Fantome would admit that language may have evolved a little bit over the last 10 centuries or so.

I think people will find that 'slang' is how a language evolves.......:}

Dunno bout any of youse, but I want the last coupl'a hundred kila-bites back, as this is utter tripe.

j3

Complete ignorant bullsht.

And more on the pollution of the language, another of my pet hates is the use of 'guard' instead of 121.5.
There is simply no such thing as 'guard'.

That may be, dear J3, but one man's tripe can be, another's offal offertory.

Well, we're all here to learn. There is, and in most military cockpits (US at least) you will find a switch on the com panel with a "guard" position. The etymology I understand comes from when the US Coast Guard was given responsibility for search and rescue of shipping.

AFAIK it stems from the requirement for some military and Coast Guard serviced to 'guard' 121.5, not an actual switch position as such.
And there is no mention of it in any Australian CAO, etc either so why is it used here?

Quote from a flight manual,

With the switch at T/R + G REC, the radio operates on the selected frequency in addition to monitoring guard frequency.

Whilst these are UHF, VHF was set up likewise.

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Must be all 'hush hush' military stuff then. I always thought that 'Guard ' was just another 'Americanism' that had crept into our civil usage. Thought it was the 'chatter' frequency at one stage, like 'The Numbers'.
We only needed to monitor three frquencies, - the current VHF being worked, monitoring 121.5 if anyone was in trouble or if a beacon (ship or aircraft) was going off, and the current H.F., although the bigger aircraft had Selcal so that helped keep the traffic down on H.F. It was only later on domestic flights that people rabbiting on with trivia on Company or 123.45 got to be wearing for this guy.

Ta, Brian.

Nope, standard fit whether it be trainer, helicopter, transport, fighter, etc. SR-71 even.

That he would, and does. While his Saxon progenitors' text of Beowulf appears today entirely a strange and foreign tongue, progressively, high masters of prose and verse, as language evolved,
became increasingly severe and disciplined applying clear expression to the crafting of their finest works. Most digression, for instance, they'd strike out as sloppy waffle of little or no relevance. Off topic they rarely were.

Thread drift only happened at frayed hems.

This thread is fun I must say. The responses or heavily opined and as such cannot really be wrong no matter how much they gainsay each other. I wish that some here would at least acknowledge that there are other possiblities in common useage than those they were indoctrinated with during their formative years ( at some very severe boarding schools I would assume).

Hood or bonnet?? (applicable to a car or a ladies head dress)

Boot or trunk?

rear view mirror or rear vision mirror?

railway station or train station?

Rubbish bin or trash can?

step up to the crease or step up to the plate?

to take this thread seriously or engage in enlightened discussion?

Understandability is a seppification, and one I use, however I admit that I was stunned by a reference to ''Securitization" of a military establishment recently.

I like making up my own words along the lines of Jebediah Sprinfield's quote:

That a people might embiggen America,
that a man might embiggen his soul.

I refer to smallification of items due to technology etc.. most people do not notice these deliberate bastardizations, though I do not doubt that there would be great wailing and beating of breasts followed by rending of garments and gnashing of teeth if some who post here were within earshot.

I personally call it 'the money maker' or a plane or sometimes even an aeroplane, never an airplane, cos that's not me, but I do allow that some people do call them airplanes, and I know what they mean when they use such blasphemous wordage.

I also know what deeners and zacks are and am proud of our aussie way of butchering a language to suit our needs. The 'pommification'of the DAH3 is a defensible useage I believe, as is maggot bag, dog's eye and dead horse. Not exactly the queens english, but never mind, we will be a Republic soon enough.

HD (previously BSA and AJS rider, but I move with the times)

Zack - sixpence, a deener - a shilling or a bob, that wasn't bastardising of our slanguage. No character or quality was lowered or in any sense debased.
If anything enhanced. And if you'd been the agent who said to the bloke who tried to buy a ticket at the check in counter 'Sorry ocker, the Fokker's chocker', the finer points of language use wouldn't have entered into it.

But your references to 'poseur' and 'arrogance' are offensive, and contrary to the terms of agreement.

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful - Poster reported.

Ingrish
 

From The PM of Australia

programmatic specificity
conceptually synthesise
natural complementarity
jobs consequence
Now we must cut our cloth to make sure it fits and that applies to the totality of the budget."
I'll reverse engineer and start at the third and move back to the first
By immediate, I mean immediate. Immediate means now. It's ready to go now.’”
fair shake of the sauce bottle

So make up your own Ingrish

BH

*edit - thank you Mods, Bill S.

Harley D

I was considering a job change in California, tempted by Roto Rooter advertisment sent by my brother, until I found that rooter had a different meaning stateside :}

BH

blackhand, try visiting the US as a callow youth and innocently asking the girl behind the counter in the stationary section of the on base PX for a rubber (eraser in the US - rubber was an, ahem).

Is a Hairyplane a dangerous aeroplane?