Anyone know how long between reference check & job offer at the moment (assuming the referenece checks didn't blow you out of the water)?

I believe it's taking 6- 8 weeks after ref checks before people are getting the job offer.

Ground Crew
 

Hi Everyone,
I posted in the wannabees thread about this but i though i'm best going to the recruitment thread for the further questions. I asked if Virgin Hires there own ground crew in BNE Domestic because I am really interested in getting into this role when I finish school Guest Services Check-in etc to be exact. I got a reply saying that most of the recruitment is done through Westaff... are they just a recruitment company or are they another company which is subcontracted to DJ???

the Key word, however, in that sentence was most... Does that mean it's possible to go straight into Virgin Blue as the company in a ground crew position??? (BNE exactly) And if that is the case will they advertise the job on their careers website???

Any answers are greatly appreciated

Thanks Heaps

ihaveaplanVB

Does anyone have experience on guys being hired on the basis of a foreign ATPL, which they then obviously convert in the conventional sense.
I would be in that pot, but wonder if it's even worth applying without the CASA ATPL???
thanks
pd

As asked before does, anyone have any info on the current assessment process and the sim assessment, ie nature of questions and the type of sim exercise to expect ? Any help would be of great assistance.

In regard to the Aussie ATPL based on overseas recognition, I'm under the impression that they prefer applicants to have done all the Aussie exams, or the JAR exams, over not having taken the easy road of doing it in the US, although I could be wrong.

DP, I believe the sim assessment is a hand flying exercise, no FD, no AT, that involves intercepting an outbound heading, sector entry into a holding pattern and then an ILS.

Do not take this as gospel though. My information was based on a recent conversation with a guy who was just about to do one. Candidates are given the exercise in advance.

Sorry, I can't help you with the rest of your questions though.

A few guys went Stateside in the early days to do a quickie FAA ATP, then back home for the conversion, thus circumventing the requirement to do the seven Aussie exams. These days however, unless someone is willing to correct me, they'll want to see those seven exam passes or else. No shortcuts.

As for the sim exercise: basic handling (no Flight Director), takeoff, straight & level, rate-1 turns, climbing/descending turns, sector entry, approach & landing, etc (although landing not assessed if you haven't flown jets). In other words, the usual stuff. If you haven't flown a jet before, don't sweat it, just as long as your scans are up to speed. They don't expect you to be Superman, but they will be looking for an ability to recognise/correct errors and show steady improvement through the exercise.

Success!! :ok:

In regards to having a foreign ATPL and converting to an Aus ATPL, I have an ATPL from the CAAC and currently fly the 737NG and have a fair amount of flight time on it. I am however wanting to return home to the family in Oz but reluctant to leave my position to take time off to sit the 7 exams and hope I get a job at VB. Any advice would be most appreciated and feel free to PM me.

DC323, someone far better qualified to answer than me may come along but I don't think you have to sit the Australian ATPL exams if you have a recognised foreign ATPL. I think it may only involve sitting an air law exam but I stand to be corrected.

The lurk that Bunglerat alluded to was the circumventing of sitting the exams in Australia by doing the FAA "weekend" ATPL exam and then flight test. Rightly or wrongly it was regarded by some in Australia as a lesser form of ATPL and should not be considered.

With a CAAC ATPL and flight time on a 737 NG I should think you would be seriously considered.

On the application forms it clearly states:

Do you hold an Australian ATPL yes/no

Do you hold an Australian CPL yes/no

Do you hold the examination credits for the Australian ATPL subjects yes/no

Was your Australian ATPL issued under the recognition of a foreign licence yes/no

If yes, what authority -

So the jist is, yes it will give you an Australian ATPL under recognition of the CAAC licence however the Australian operators will still require you to have passes in ALL the Australian subjects even if you already legitimately hold the Australian ATPL. A similar situation exists if you want to convert an Australian ATPL to a JAR licence etc.

I'd suggest emailing/calling recruitment for further information.

The Green Goblin I think the thought is they want to see if you picked up an ATPL by sitting the Australian Exams, or if you just memorised the answers to the FAA exams.

Virgin Blue 'Guest Services' Assessment Day
 

Hey everyone,

Got an interview coming up in January for an FO slot at VB, anyone have the latest info on the selection process? Are there many technical questions or is it all personality type stuff?

Thanks in advance!

Just further to the above, can anybody shed any light on the latest recruitment processes in place - type of interview questions, and sim profile?

Thanks.

@zim2uk: how did you go?
Also curious to know what experience the guys have, who get an interview and how long since they submitted their application?
Thanks heaps

Has anyone got any answers to Beerman and F/O's Questions??

I read on the A330 thread they are supposed to be recruiting now and through this year.
I would also like to hear the latest info from someone who has recently interviewed in last few months re interview location, Q asked , sim etc and what experience levels people need to be realistically called for an interview.
I am assuming multi crew time on a regional turboprop on either Charter or RPT would be the current minimum given the number of people looking for work or looking to move up from where they are??
Thanks. :ok:


most of the recruitment threads are more than 2 yrs old.

Don't know what changes have ocurred in the interview process, but I was at the sim centre 2 weeks ago and interviews were going on all day.

Currently all recruitment has been axed until ? Due the various reasons command courses have also been put on hold now looking at crew surplus again

Questil, where did you hear this? Info from within?