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Andu 1st Jan 2010 23:42

Merged: Norfolk Island ditching
 
Anyone have any idea when a preliminary report might be issued on this?

The whole thing seems to have gone very quiet and Max Clifford (or his Australian equivalent) is conspicuous by his absence in pushing the pilot(s) into any sort of money-making publicity ventures. For instance, I haven't heard even a whisper about any book deal.

Capt Claret 2nd Jan 2010 00:44


... in pushing the pilot(s) into any sort of money-making publicity ventures.
Not much of a market for "how I sunk an aeroplane".

Howard Hughes 2nd Jan 2010 05:22

Rumour has it that a CASA report into the incident has been released to interested parties this week, not sure if it will ever be made public.

otto the grot 2nd Jan 2010 05:41

Hmmmmmmmm.... interested parties, let's see....RFDS? oh, and maybe ambos victoria.:hmm:

Compylot 2nd Jan 2010 05:52

Were or are there any plans to recover the FDR?

Howard Hughes 2nd Jan 2010 05:55

Actually those involved Otto.:rolleyes:

Understand the FDR is under two kilometres of water.

Car RAMROD 2nd Jan 2010 06:11

Not sure on whose report it is, but have heard one is just about done and should be out soon.

How soon, well, how long is a piece of string?

Be interesting reading that's for sure.

Fubaar 2nd Jan 2010 06:34

I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd love to hear the CVR for the period + 10 seconds of touchdown.

And the pre-ditching briefing (and how long that took).

Checkboard 2nd Jan 2010 08:57

AO-2009-072

Dog One 2nd Jan 2010 10:03

I find the following statement by the ATSB interesting

Following the event, the aircraft operator initiated a program of checking and revalidation for the company's commercial Westwind pilots.

One would have assumed that operating aircraft above 5700, they would have had a CAR217 organisation with a minimum of two checks per year.

zanzibar 2nd Jan 2010 10:06

Checkboard - that's only an initial investigation notification and not a Preliminary Report which normally follows the initial investigation. Then, after usually a loooong time, comes the Final Report.

HH - An ATSB source tells me it's in water at less than 500 mtrs and they (ATSB) have already located the wreckage and attached a line to it to facilitate later retrieval of the FDR and CVR.

CarR - close to the money from my same source.

Checkboard 2nd Jan 2010 10:15

I'm aware of that. Post was more of a "watch this space" ;)

MTOW 2nd Jan 2010 21:36

From the link in post number 11:

The crew then elected to ditch before the aircraft's fuel supply was exhausted.
Has that been confirmed? That they 'elected' to ditch? As someone said above, I'm sure BASI are quite interested in listening to pre-ditching briefing on the CVR.

Captain Sand Dune 2nd Jan 2010 22:09

Well with all the "experts" on the telly saying what a top pilot he is, I'm sure he'll be busy sorting out which job offers to take up!:}

Capt Claret 2nd Jan 2010 22:13

Heard through the font of all knowledge, the Townsville Refueller, that 3/4 mil spent on avionics upgrade etc in the month before it were sunk! :eek:

MTOW, what pre ditching briefing? :uhoh:

Under Dog 2nd Jan 2010 22:17

Capt Claret
Rumour from a good source has it that it hadn't been entered on the insurance policy.

The Dog:ok:

Wally Mk2 2nd Jan 2010 23:26

Interesting how this thread is ramping up fast again after the original one that was 'sunk'
Just goes to show that humans in general like to 'watch' even if it is thru the written word.:)
Whatever the reason/cause for establishing a new underwater aviation museum off our coast is lets hope we can all learn from others possible mistakes.


Wmk2

Howard Hughes 3rd Jan 2010 02:54


HH - An ATSB source tells me it's in water at less than 500 mtrs and they (ATSB) have already located the wreckage and attached a line to it to facilitate later retrieval of the FDR and CVR.
Even in 500M of water you need some serious recovery equipment and I don't know that the ATSB has the funding to permit such a recovery, especially considering there were no fatalities.

I doubt very much the FDR/CVR will ever be recovered, after 6 plus weeks in the water the data may already be irretrievable!

Andu 3rd Jan 2010 05:22

... and could there be a few - or at least a couple - of people who won't be too upset about that?

Counter-rotation 3rd Jan 2010 09:02

Ask the pax about the pre-ditching briefing given to them,,, They could pretty easily describe it I'm sure


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