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av8trflying 26th Dec 2009 21:31

This is quite interesting reading.

Always Leave Yourself An Out

I was going to paste the whole page, but it is quite long.

Comments?

Tinstaafl 27th Dec 2009 04:57

Not a word different from my philosophy about how to fly Part 23 twins. I can add to it a little though:

Except for performance limiting runways, I use Vyse (or Vxse in a pinch) as my 'gear up therefore I'll try to go' point. On long runways I delay gear up until I judge I couldn't land on the remaining distance, have entered IMC or start a turn. That sort of procedure is how I buffer the asymmetric performance problems of light twins.

On performance limiting runways those buffers aren't available. For short or obstacle limiting runways I select gear up as soon as +ve climb is established and then climb at Vx until obstacles are cleared. Thereafter climb at Vy.

For approach I maintain at least Vyse until less than Vyse is necessary for landing *or* that a missed approach just isnt' feasable. After that I'll land behind, to the side or ahead of any idiot** who occupies the runway during my declared emergency.

**After landing I plan to take the feathered prop from the failed engine and shove it up the arse of the idiot while I explain how critical my just concluded predicament was.

Arnold E 27th Dec 2009 07:30


take the feathered prop from the failed engine and shove it up the arse of the idiot
Does that include sheep??:E

dogcharlietree 4th Nov 2012 02:52

Would really like to know details of this accident. ie rego, date etc. Thanks.


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