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inandout 27th Oct 2009 20:00

Cost of ATPL
 
Can some one please post how much in Australia it would cost in time and money to get a ATPL.

Sqwark2004 27th Oct 2009 22:13

All depends on where you go.

I did all 7 subjects in 6 1/2 weeks with AFT. Studied Met. before I got there, attended 6 weeks of class and did the 4 more difficult exams, then did Law and HF the following Thurs / Fri.

Can't remember the costs but there is accom. available within walking distance about $110-$130 / wk from memory. They also had a deal with a local bakery to provide 3 meals / day at set cost, alternatively there is Bi-lo close by.

The classes were very thorough and the practice exams were almost spot on.

There are other providers out there but I have not dealt with them.

Try contacting them at

Welcome to Advanced Flight Theory

to get a more detailed run down.

Hope this helps.

Aussie 27th Oct 2009 23:53

Geez, almost sounds like ya advertising for them! :}

However, i used a couple books from AFT likewise, and highly recommend them too! Very good material and was well prepared for exam!

Howard Hughes 28th Oct 2009 00:18

There are two ways to do your ATPL subjects, both end up costing about the same in the long run!

The quickest way is to learn with a theory provider like AFT!;)

Andy365 28th Oct 2009 01:21

Bob tait
 
What about Bob Tait would this school cut it as good as with AFL?

training wheels 28th Oct 2009 02:31

I did the distance learning course at AFT and found them to be great. The fulltime ground school course is $2940.00.

Previous poster above has posted the link to their website, but here's a direct link to the cost page. Click it, and it'll reveal the information you need for your HR department;

ATPL Aeroplane Theory Course - Distance Learning Course

inandout 28th Oct 2009 03:32

T Wheel, thanks however I was also looking for aircraft costs as well . ie total cost to get a ATPL.

SM227 28th Oct 2009 03:48

err... lets see, 1500* $500=$750,000. good luck :ugh:

training wheels 28th Oct 2009 04:49


Originally Posted by inandout (Post 5280192)
T Wheel, thanks however I was also looking for aircraft costs as well . ie total cost to get a ATPL.

inandout, here are the requirements for the issue of an ATPL.


Applicants must

* be at least 21 years of age
* be able to speak, read and understand the English Language
* hold or be eligible to hold a flight radiotelephone operator licence
* have passed a written examination (current exam consists of 7 parts)
* hold or have held a command multi engine instrument rating
* have a total of 1500 hours flight time including at least
*
o 750 hours in aeroplanes of which 250 must be as pilot in command (may include up to 150 hours acting in command under supervision)
o 200 hours cross country
o 75 hours instrument flight time
o 100 hours at night


So, basically, you'll need to get your CPL first where you'll finish up with 150 or 200 hours TT (depending on whether you do an integrated course or not).

After that, then you start building your experience working firstly in GA until you have the minimum 1500 hours TT. Whilst doing that, hopefully, you would have done the minimums stipulated above, eg 200 hours cross-country, 75 hours IF and 100 hours at night.

You also need to pass the ATPL theory subjects I referred to in my previous post.

After all that, you can then apply for the ATPL.

Hope this helps.

Howard Hughes 28th Oct 2009 04:56

If you are starting from scratch, it'll cost you the best part of $100k to get your CPL, instrument rating and ATPL subjects, then all you need to do is get the other 1300 hours towards your ATPL!

Of course you don't need your ATPL to be an F/O, but you do need it before you can get a command.

Cheers, HH.:ok:

inandout 28th Oct 2009 05:47

How many hrs required for the CPL. Thanks

Howard Hughes 28th Oct 2009 06:28

The minimum is 150 if you do an 'integrated course'.

OpsNormal 28th Oct 2009 07:43

Inandout, I'm confused and in fact smell a rat.... In some recent posts you make out that you are already flying heavy metal and yet you are asking questions about basic requirements of licences that are/is... 1. freely available on the CASA website and, 2. very similar (except for the flight test, however that has been supposedly coming for the past 5 years) requirements to most other countries for ATPL etc.

If you already have an ATPL from another country that you require to use in Australia then I would suggest it could be simpler getting CASA to just validate your current licence (which may require you to merely sit an Air Law examination at a minimum).

Suggest you check here: Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Home

Yet I notice that you also seem rather critical of CASA in some of your recent posts....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Dunno, couldn't care less, have a lovely day!

Regards,

OpsN.;)

The Green Goblin 28th Oct 2009 09:25

Perhaps he has a fleet of caravans and is training to be a Qantas pilot :p

DH 200' 28th Oct 2009 11:14

1970? I hope you've got your age wrong then...:ugh:

The Green Goblin 28th Oct 2009 12:10

There really has been some characters on here of late. Keep up the good work fellas! Keeps these boards interesting!

On Guard 28th Oct 2009 19:36

I'm interested, how did you get a job with VA with no ATPL and little experience by the sounds of it? Not knocking just interested.

You must have neededa CASA CPL, subjects a preference, Most guys had at least 1000hrTT

training wheels 28th Oct 2009 21:07

inandout, your post came across as someone who had absolutely no idea about how it all works, thus explaining my response which was directed at the "newbie with no idea" level. It's a surprise to me (and others too, it seems like) that you actually have an ATPL, thus the further questions. I still don't understand what you mean by;


T Wheel, thanks however I was also looking for aircraft costs as well . ie total cost to get a ATPL.
what total aircraft cost to get the ATPL?

inandout 29th Oct 2009 06:08

:) Tw, what I was after is the total cost of getting an ATPL today. So some starts from nil hrs to 1500hrs, what would that cost if you paid for all those hrs and courses yourself, lets say using Pa 28 and Pa44.

maverick22 29th Oct 2009 06:20


So some starts from nil hrs to 1500hrs, what would that cost if you paid for all those hrs and courses yourself, lets say using Pa 28 and Pa44.
A hell of a lot! Generally people don't pay to get a full ATPL. You get a CPL + MECIR + ATPL theory (frozen ATPL essentially) and then get a job to gain the required hours.

Not sure what a CPL+MECIR is these days, maybe $80, 000. Plus the AFT ATPL course. Might be another $3500 including exams. At this point you would have around 200ish hours. So then you would require another 1300 hours to meet the ATPL requirement (1300 multiplied by the current rate of whatever aircraft you wanted to do the hours in).

Sounds ludicrous to me:confused:


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