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Wyle E Coyote 4th Nov 2009 23:40

.........and money. It doesn't look like this is appealing to too many guys with the experience required by reputable airlines.

Good luck boys and girls...... you may need it

ksa5223 5th Nov 2009 02:09

Regardless of the reasons why they are recruiting, it is still a very good opportunity. Beats the hell out of flying bugsmashers. multi crew environment, airline operations exposure. Whoever takes it on, after the 3year bond is set for life. By this time the industry will probably take a turn for the better, lots more aeroplanes will have been delivered and you can practically take your pick at who you want to fly for. Good Luck.

VH DSJ 5th Nov 2009 05:16


Regardless of the reasons why they are recruiting, it is still a very good opportunity. Beats the hell out of flying bugsmashers. multi crew environment, airline operations exposure.
If you take on this opportunity, then good luck to you. But please don't come running to Pprune after six months and whinge about poor terms and conditions, low pay, poor safety record of this airline and so on. You know exactly what you're getting in to. Merpati is a government airline and one of the lowest paying airlines in the country. It's poor safety record speaks for itself.

And what's the bet some guys will even use Merpati's poor safety record as an excuse to break the 3 year bond when they find greener pastures back home? It's happened before (with SQ in the early 90's when they hired GA pilots from Aus, Canada and the UK) and I'm sure it will happen again.

HTFU 6th Nov 2009 02:48


poor terms and conditions, low pay, poor safety record
Sounds like your average GA operator, and punters still bitch and moan about them

frigatebird 6th Nov 2009 22:10

fly
Can't speak for a Merpati cockpit, never got invited. But know even a Merpati Check Captain stupid enough to try to get me to do something unsafe or that I wasn't satisfied with would get short shrift.. The complaint and resignation would be offered on landing, no matter what the terms of the contract.. Have spoken up in the past, and it has cost me - but at least I can still sleep well at night.
The advice is the same to those F.O. Trainees who accept the offer, do what you can to improve the reputation of the company you're working for, gain skills to improve your own situation and marketability, and leave if you have to if it means survival. Just sitting around moaning about others didn't get Kingsford-Smith across the Pacific that first time..

HTFU 11th Nov 2009 23:21

UPDATE
 
So what's the story so far, have the chosen few gone over and started training yet? if so what type????

momo155cm 16th Nov 2009 05:33

GA FA Recruitment in Japan
 
Hello all,

I have read most of the threads here. GA made quite a lot of accidents before, aye. Their safety policy is now getting better than ever, according to the newspaper. I'm not sure when they got the permission to fly into EU country but GA is now finally accepted to land there. I hope they reach the world standard of safety soon.

I'm applying for GA cabin crew in Japan. They do have some of them, but this time officially is the 1st Japanese crew. Very very first one. It could be hard to make the base of foreign cabin crew, because there are no those who experienced from the same country. I am very interested in both working with Indonesian crew and making the standard for next coming up crew.

I'm glad I could listen your opinions about GA here.
Thank you all for being patient about my English grammar. And thanks again for reading this. Arigatou.

HTFU 25th Nov 2009 05:45

So it's been a few weeks now, according to medsdebs timeline he should be flying in indo now, whatever happened to medsdebs posts?? that guy must've been full of hot air..:E

Hempy 25th Nov 2009 07:34

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../9/1353945.jpg

Superfly Slick Dick 10th Dec 2009 03:26

Telling time
 
What is the latest in this interesting saga?
Can anyone tell us what has been happening?

HTFU 10th Dec 2009 05:28

Well the most informative posts came from medsdeb
don't know why but most if not all of his previous posts have disappeared
any ideas??

Superfly Slick Dick 10th Dec 2009 06:20

Shame
 
Well, HTFU, perhaps people are ashamed at the dissapointing outcome, and feel embarrassed to admit they were wishful thinkers?

Dont I sound pessimistic. But, its GA that has broken my spirit.

When I finally get into an airline, and have a REAL job, Im going to make and wear a t-shirt that says "I survived GA"

No wonder people aren't becoming pilots anymore. What a joke of an industry.
:ugh:

2b2 11th Mar 2010 21:45

any news on this scam, oops scheme?

Same outcome as the NZ/US twin jobs, was it?

training wheels 26th Jun 2010 01:26


Originally Posted by 2b2 (Post 5565840)
any news on this scam, oops scheme?

Same outcome as the NZ/US twin jobs, was it?

No scam mate. The first group of Aussie pilots are in Jakarta right now doing their MA60 type rating course. After 3 or 4 weeks in Jakarta, they will then go to Xian, China for simulator. Type rating is all paid for by the company but a two year, $5000 USD training bond applies. If you ask me, it's a much better deal than the Jetstar or Qantaslink cadetships.

There's another MA60 type rating course starting in July and the manager has been asking for recommendations from the Aussie recruits. :ok: Merpati will be taking delivery of 3 MA60's from China every month from July through to October. A total of 15 MA60's will be operational by the end of the year.

ReverseFlight 27th Jun 2010 00:19

I know what you posted is genuine.

Are you actually there ? How long do you have to work in Madura before you come on line ?

training wheels 27th Jun 2010 14:55


Originally Posted by ReverseFlight (Post 5776277)
I know what you posted is genuine.

Are you actually there ? How long do you have to work in Madura before you come on line ?

RF, yes, I'm in Jakarta. Check your email. :)

napiersabre 27th Jun 2010 15:54

TW, I would appreciate any info you could share with us?

Neptunus Rex 27th Jun 2010 16:00

training wheels
As part of your conversion onto this Chinese type, are you having to learn 'barbed wire writing?'

training wheels 27th Jun 2010 16:27


Originally Posted by Neptunus Rex (Post 5777214)
training wheels
As part of your conversion onto this Chinese type, are you having to learn 'barbed wire writing?'

The FCOM is in English .. not the Queen's English, but understandable. There are also other resources such as a CBT package and PowerPoint slides which are written in English.

The course instructors so far have been speaking Bahasa Indonesia in class but there are a few people in the class who are fluent in both English and Bahasa and are helping to translate. The course participants are not just the Aussie recruits; the majority are infact Merpati captains changing types from CN235, F100 and B737 to the MA60 and some have a reasonable level of English and have been very helpful.

training wheels 15th Jul 2010 16:37


Originally Posted by napiersabre (Post 5777207)
TW, I would appreciate any info you could share with us?

napiersabre, check your PMs.


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