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delta_alpha_november 5th Jun 2012 05:47

First time posting so please dont jump down my thoat. I was just wondering what accomodation is like in Broome for people looking for that exclusive first job.I have heard of a term called "Pilot Houses" - are these common throughout the town.

I am planning to make the move in October/November (i know it is at the end of the season but that will give me the oportunity to hopefully find full time empolyment in a non - aviation role to support myself and meet operators over the wet season).

I am well aware many people spend time in tents or at the local backpackers - and i'm quite willing to do it as well if i need to, however i'm planning to be in Broome longterm (even if i dont find something in the 2013 season i would have more chance of employment staying there than in Sydney) so i would be after permanent accomodation.

Feel free to pm me

archerlover 24th Jul 2012 06:29

so how did everyone go that was going north this season ?

the_rookie 12th Sep 2012 05:58

Must be close to the end of the "north" season. How did everyone go at getting the first job?

the_rookie 14th Sep 2012 00:44

surely someone has something to share!!

Hasherucf 14th Sep 2012 00:59

Little bit of info about Broome . BAS took on about 5 newbies at the start of the dry , King leos and BAV took on a few also . delta_alpha_november ,Pilot houses are common and I know one company does help with accommodation . Mostly its up to you to find a place to stay. It's easy to find spare rooms in the wet . You might need a second job to pay the rent . Which is easy to find , like taxi driving or night packing at Woolies. Good rewards for those not to proud to make it happen . Living in a tent is okay in the dry but not the wet .

As with everyone , If you are not in town actively searching and getting your name out there then it's a waste of time.

fiftyeight 26th Sep 2012 09:30

Heading to Broome next season. Looking forward to the challenge. A few quick questions if anyone can help.

Hoping to get up there mid jan, is this early enough?

I have a 150h CPL and will have MECIR on a Baron. Will be flying family and friends around before I head up, is total hours more important than say paying extra and getting some 210 time or similar? I know I will need more hours than the 180ish ill finish my training with, what do people think is the minimum needed to have a real chance?

Dont really care what I do for a job before I find a flying job but I have a forklift ticket and shipping container ticket, much work up there in trucking yards and warehouses?

Also after reading many threads, a lot of people suggest just getting to know other pilots and "hanging" around the airport. Im assuming there is not just a bunch of wannabe pilots sitting at the airport. How do I meet these people who I need to get to know? say my first day up there what do I do? (long general question, but I have zero contacts and zero idea where to start)

Sorry for the essay but hope I can find some answers out there

Cheers

deadcut 26th Sep 2012 10:57

FIFTYEIGHT

Check your PMs.

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Flyin 27th Sep 2012 09:13

Heard both King Leo and Kimberley Aviation took on some pilots recently, guess it depends on demand and if the current pilots move on.

I say first day you get to town, call up and see if you can pop in to chat to the CP. If they're busy, drop of your resume and try again. In terms of meeting the pilots, head over to the Divers or go to the titty comp (not sure if the ban has been lifted).

In terms of 200 series time, the C206 is just a bigger and heavier C182, my opinion anyway. Some of the operators there operate a C172/PA28 so I'd assume it's not a requirement to have some 200 time as some would start there or to build hours for insurance purposes for the 200s.

Got a mate there at the moment and he says there were/are guys that have been waiting for a year or so but plenty of non-flying jobs when the season kicks off. I believe Toll is operating at the port with shipping containers, try them.

AerobaticArcher 27th Sep 2012 09:33

Minimum hours you need will be around 200, however I have seen a few people employed with less than that, and they did ICUS in the C210s until they got to 200hrs. Most operators have a minimum 200hrs total time for 200 series aircraft due insurance.

Cessna 200 series time is not important. Go and get a C210 handbook and study the limitations and systems, so you know the numbers come time for a check flight.

Most operators hire in early Feb, so they have a full compliment of pilots for the start of the dry. But there will always be positions that open up.

As for meeting pilots, if you work behind a bar, they won't be too hard to find.

If you need a place to stay, check out the notice boards around town (Broome), always a few rooms being advertised.

mcgrath50 27th Sep 2012 09:51


Most operators hire in early Feb
I'd heard (or read here I think) March/April was the bigger time for hiring? I was aiming for the start of March but is this too late?

Flyin 28th Sep 2012 08:53

Best bet is to get in early, as mentioned, Leos, BAV and BAS hired early this year. Having said that some were picked up around March. They tend to hire in Jan/Feb to train pilots up to standard or build hours for insurance before they are let loose to fly tourist once the season starts, say April.

NzCaptainAndrew 28th Sep 2012 22:58

Wow kippers, that's very impressive for someone around the 200 hour mark very impressive. Very employable. :ok::ok::ok:

Astro37 29th Sep 2012 05:13

More jobs bush for green pilots
 
Very little jobs for fresh pilot in Darwin itself, but still lots of low hour pilot 'hanging around', (some might be lucky).

Try the smaller communities, like in jabiru, oenpelli, maningrida, elcho island, groote eylandt they all have at least one company based there. You might be able to save money there too compared to the cost of living in Darwin.

fiftyeight 2nd Oct 2012 05:10

Thanks for the advice everyone. Looking forward to heading up there ASAP

Hot High Heavy 2nd Oct 2012 06:17

The idea of heading up for 'the season' is somewhat of a misnomer in my experience and is prob more pertinent to the scenic operators. I can only comment on Darwin and the north of the NT but generally the operators are flat out in the wet as roads start to close and govt workers, tradies and locals all still need to get around.

There is obviously a risk to put newbies on during the wet due to the conditions but as companies progress guys onto twins they get desperate for single drivers and so the right candidate with the right ICUS etc should be alright.

Darwin has two or three operators that will take low time guys (Territory Air Services, Air Frontier, Barrier, Top End Tandems and possibly AV8). As mentioned earlier there are also operators they service the remote East Arnhem areas that will take low time guys too (Katherine Av, MAF - if you are a churchie, Air Frontier, Gunbalanya, AAA Charter, Bawawinga and possibly ChartAir).

Good luck, its definately achievble with patience and is def worth it once you land that first gig.

Lasiorhinus 2nd Oct 2012 09:57

Speaking of AV8, does anyone know what's the go up there? Apparently they've lost a few AOCs recently.

hongkongfooey 2nd Oct 2012 11:11

Wot about Kakadu Air in Jabiru ? They used to take 150-200 hour guys, what, are they after 5000 jet now ? ;)

deadcut 2nd Oct 2012 15:21

Information regarding the Top End
 
I called Kakadu Air a couple of months ago. 400TT

fiftyeight 8th Oct 2012 14:05

400TT for Kakadu Air in Jabiru. I hope this is not an indication of the hours required next season

Ixixly 8th Oct 2012 14:47

They've been 400TT for a little while fiftyeight, don't let that put you off too much, its just because of the Airvans Insurance, they used to take lower when they had the 207s though. Still plenty around who will take lower than 400TT.


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