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MMA_Historicflight 28th Jul 2009 11:56

Transporting a DC-3 by road in Australia
 
Does anyone have any photos, or know of anyone involved with transporting a DC-3 by road? I am very interested in hearing from them or looking at pic's.

the wizard of auz 28th Jul 2009 12:25

Ask the owner of the Bunbury flying school. Ask for Blair. He had one transported to his property. Funny enough, it has the same Rego as your username. :ok:

ausflyer 28th Jul 2009 14:22

DC3 Transport
 
PM me for details of a Tocumwal transport operator. David S. is the man to chat with.
Cheers,
Aus':ok:

muffman 28th Jul 2009 15:47

Call in at HARS at Albion Park and talk to Timmsy. Not sure if he's done a Dak but he's certainly moved a few aeroplanes in his time.

185skywagon 29th Jul 2009 04:18

Also get in touch with the Qantas Founders Museum crew at Longreach. They had one delivered in last few years.

spirax 29th Jul 2009 04:58

Suggest you contact Mike Spaulding at the Mareeba Warbirds Museum. They moved a C-47 from Wangaratta to Mareeba a few years back.

Buster Hyman 29th Jul 2009 05:34

If its for a static display at a golf course...I'd give Qantas a call... :E

Whiskery 29th Jul 2009 06:55

Now that's funny Buster. :D

SeldomFixit 29th Jul 2009 07:26

If you can work out how to get the tail feathers there...............try this :ok:
Vannin in a DC-3

paulg 29th Jul 2009 10:31

This link contains a photo of DC3 VH BPL being transported by road from Hoxton Park to Longreach. There is also a link to the history of this aircraft. Last year there were some photos online following the story of this road trip. However this no longer shows on my Google Search. Longreach Museum may be able to give you this link. BTW this Aircraft was in latter years owned by the late and fondly revered Laurie McIver and was kept by him at Hoxton Park. It did post war service with Qantas.

Page 1 -Photos by Friends and Others

Kind regards
Paul

MMA_Historicflight 29th Jul 2009 16:38

Thanks for your help so far people. I do remember seeing some pics of the one at Alice springs being transported, and also the one in Perth from Midland Macca's to Caversham. I did contact the guys up at Longreach and they did supply me with some pics. I also got in touch with the QAM people who also are been very helpful. I do hope within a week I can inform you of the plans. I do know Timmsy, and tonight I found out that some people I work with have relo's at HARS, I hope in time that will be handy. I just hope that I can pull off what I am planning to do. Fingers crossed.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 30th Jul 2009 02:22

Is not the 'real' MMA still flying / airworthy??

Still up at Darwhine..??:)

P.S......Good onya Buster.....
Something like....What's the correct phrase prior to flaring at BKK....


'Fore'.......:O

Fantome 30th Jul 2009 06:35

What result the auction at West Maitland last week of VH-CWS?

jetstar21 30th Jul 2009 10:45

While talking DC3s, I can add that MMA was the original registration of Mc Robertson Miller Airlines of W.A.

This aircraft started life as a C47 with the U.S. Marines in PNG then went to Perth as MMA and later returned to PNG as P2-ANS.

In 1977 it was purchased by Masling Airlines (Commuter Services) of Cootamundra and operated charter from Sydney and on occasions the route Sy-Wlm-Sy. It was given the registration VH-MWQ and when Masling started operating the Bandeirante in 1978, VH-MWQ was sold and went to Darwin where it operated for some time and the registration later returned to VH-MMA

blackburn 30th Jul 2009 12:40

Heres a link to the list of owners of VH-MMA (hope I have got it right):

http://http://www.aussieairliners.org/dc-3/vh-mma/vhmma.html

MMA_Historicflight 2nd Aug 2009 02:17

MMA - Darwin - Airworthy
MMD - Bankstown - Museum (could become airworthy)
MMF - Bankstown - Restoring to Airworthy
MML - Bankstown - My Project to Airworthy
MMM - Taiwan - Museum

There is also a F27 Flying, F28 flying, and also a L10A Electra in the states in a museum.

I have also found the maintenance manual ref to remove the wings and the center section of the aircraft to. It doesn't seem too hard to do, just time consuming.

PA39 2nd Aug 2009 06:29

I remember many years ago helping Laurie polish the old Gooney by hand. Gee he never stopped loving that old bird. best regards to you mate.

tail wheel 2nd Aug 2009 08:24

I encountered this on the road to Longreach a few years ago:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...3Longreach.jpg

Doing around 80 kts in reverse!! :E

sms777 2nd Aug 2009 13:03

Memories of Laurie and BPL
 
I have spent many afternoons with Laurie drinking coffee walking around his Gooney Bird at Hoxton talking about the resto progress. I was one of the privilidged to have access to his fathers beloved Arrow VH-ARO after earning his trust not bending it. (Too bad his old men did on occassions). We had great plans for the future which came to a halt in a tragic way.
Great memories my friend :sad:

philip1567 11th Dec 2011 08:36

DC3 photos
 
I moved a DC3 from waggawagga to Tocumwal in about 2000
I still have the photos of the plane being loaded and unloaded and in Finlay on the way to Tocumwal
the wings went on one semi trailer with a escort and the plane was loaded on a exstendable trailer with a modified beam to support the under carage towed by a 1966 modle PeterBuilt prime
there where 2 police escorts to pilot cars and a service car
My name is Phil and my company was call Aircraft Transporter Service
I also moved other old airplanes over a 8 years
please email me and I will send you the photos

Dora-9 11th Dec 2011 21:07

MMA Historicflight:

Discounting the ill-fated VH-MME, MMA had eight DC-3's. Missing from your list is MMB, MMK and MMT. Do you know what happened to them?

Good luck with your project....

Ixixly 11th Dec 2011 22:37

Just for those interested, yes MMA is in Darwin, but its sitting around with its wings currently missing...was lucky enough to see it flying reasonably low overhead a couple of times last year though, what a beauty!!

Hold_Short 11th Dec 2011 22:42

Ask a guy called Marty Taylor from Austrek Air Charter in Toowoomba. He brought one and transported to Moree where it is standing still outside the pub.

Lancair70 12th Dec 2011 03:10

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A Couple of interesting versions ! I saw the silver and red one pass through Ballina a couple of years ago.

Hold_Short 12th Dec 2011 04:00

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/9028007@N05/5673422257/

MMA_Historicflight 4th Jan 2012 16:25

I am suprised this thread has resurfaced.

As for the project I could not raise the funds in time and Peter Starr has "donated" VH-BPN ex VH-MML to the bloke to transported all the other DC-3's out to his property at Molong in NSW near Orange. So basically the project fell over like many other great projects.

As for the remainder of the MMA fleet
MMA Darwin
MMD Bankstown Museum
MMF Nick Leach
MML is BPN

There is 1 Fokker F27 in the Peru Navy
There is 1 remaining F28 I can't remember off the top of my head where it is though.

The Piaggio is located at Wollongong.

That is all that remains of the "original" MMA fleet that I am aware of.

DC3Qld 5th Jan 2012 04:36

Not too surprised I hope.

The DC-3 has plenty of fans and I'm sure a few who would like to see one back in the skies.

Do you know the status of the aircraft stored at Molong? What are their plans with those machines, I hope they are being stored for someones' future project. I would love to see one flying in SE Qld, would be first in line for a ride.

Sorry to hear your project fell through, maybe give it a try again in a few years?

MMA_Historicflight 7th Jan 2012 09:16

All the Dakota National Air aircraft were moved from Bankstown to Molong due to the museum having to move ASAP, which of course still has not happened. However VH-UPQ was "donated" to the Bankstown Aviation museum in some deal along with BPN to Ralph who transported the aircraft.

At Molong
VH-DNA transported out, relativly airworthy, needed 1 engine and a annual
VH-MIN transported out, needed a Annual and engines
VH-PWN transported out and needs lots of work
VH-BPN needs lots of work and going to be used as a "studio"
VH-SBL at Essendon
VH-DNF trucked from Wanervale to Molong and is supposidly going to be restored to a airworthy condition. This is the aircraft Ralph purchased from auction


F27's
VH-MMV ops as AB-584 with Servico Aeronaval de la Marina del Peru

VH-MMU at Bombay in bits it was VT-ERZ
VH-MMS at Santiago Chile in bits
VH-MMR broken up
VH-MMO at the ADL airport fire training area
VH-MMB crashed

Wingnuts 10th Jan 2012 03:56

Bankstown to Molong
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a69d0ee617.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8357986349.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7f34911486.jpg



http://i68.tinypic.com/2dl13xf.jpg

BELOW, Mareeba to Caboolture, Queensland, Australia, 1700 kms, Dec 2014
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bbb38fe3ce.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....da66cf566f.jpg


CWS departing Bankstown for shipping to Korea
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....aea3123988.jpg

SPY ex Cairns Airport to
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bb0eaf68ce.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....95979cf320.jpg




Plan B
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....39ee24a7fc.jpg

DC3Qld 23rd Jul 2012 08:03

Reading about my favorite subject, I noticed that MMF was recently purchased at auction, does anyone know if this is going to join the other airframes at Larras Lee? There was a comment that it was intended to be used as spares for another DC-3, are we about to see one of these aircraft return to the skies? Always interested in hearing about what is happening with the remainder of the shrinking fleet of these legendary aircraft.

RedCup 13th Oct 2012 03:05

Would anyone have the contact for Peter Starr? I am to understand that he still owns MIN and I would like to get in contact to discuss his plans for this particular C47.
Regards.

LeadSled 14th Oct 2012 14:08


I noticed that MMF was recently purchased at auction, does anyone know if this is going to join the other airframes at Larras Lee?
DC3QLD.
This is staying at YSBK, the new owners are going to put it back in the air. After massive restoration work over the last ten years, it has to be one of the best airframe in the country, with a "new" centre section and including new paint.
Nick took a real cold bath on this one, the total at the auction, for a complete aeroplane, less engines, but including two zero time props., was about $50,000.
Two complete overhauled engines will be about US$90,000 for R-1830-94's.
Tootle pip!!

StallsandSpins 17th Oct 2012 14:52


This is staying at YSBK, the new owners are going to put it back in the air. After massive restoration work over the last ten years, it has to be one of the best airframe in the country, with a "new" centre section and including new paint.
Nick took a real cold bath on this one, the total at the auction, for a complete aeroplane, less engines, but including two zero time props., was about $50,000.
Two complete overhauled engines will be about US$90,000 for R-1830-94's.
Tootle pip!!
good to hear!the restoration had been going a lot longer than 10 years. MMF was saved from the scrapper by my grandfather back in the 80's and i remember helping NL take the wings and center section off it at berwick when he first took it up to syd around 91 or 92 on the condition that he let me fly it one day ( i was 13 at the time) .......oh well guess that's not gonna happen now :{

junior.VH-LFA 3rd Sep 2014 03:47

I've heard that SBL is now located with the other Dakota's at Larras Lee.

There is also a Dakota (I assume SBL) on aviation trader now.

Whats the goss on these old girls?

Aviation Trader - DC3 C47B

FourStar 4th Sep 2014 01:14

I think the one for sale on Aviation trader is VH-DNF

TBM-Legend 4th Sep 2014 02:06

Saw a Hawker Hunter on a truck yesterday heading north from Brisbane....

Desert Flower 5th Sep 2014 03:37

I have a couple of photos of MIN on the wall of what was my old airport office. Probably should have donated them to the Aviation Museum in Adelaide when they picked up the DC3 steps a few years ago.

DF.

TBM-Legend 5th Sep 2014 12:00

DC-3 coming to Caboolture Air Museum I hear possibly from Mareeba!

onetrack 5th Sep 2014 13:38

No aircraft could have been as well-travelled (by air and road) as this old Dak.

I well remember her outside the MacDonalds restaurant in Midland in the 1990's. My workshop was only a kilometre away from MacDonalds.

I was thrown a little by this discussion, as I always thought this one really was an MMA aircraft - but it was just repainted to resemble VH-MMF when it was located at MacDonalds.
She still sits on the property of Blair Howe ("Dakota Driver") at Myalup, W.A.

VH-ANW Douglas DC-3

http://www.pprune.org/pacific-genera...ld-dakota.html

underfire 7th Sep 2014 19:31

Years ago, I worked in San Diego...the Company next door specialized in converting the DC3 into business aircraft. Very stable aircraft and great airport access potential.

Absolutely beautiful interiors on some of these, would spend my whole lunch break checking them out.

Nice to see the birds flying, not sitting!


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