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-   -   Engine quit late downwind at Bankstown 6/6/09 (https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/378324-engine-quit-late-downwind-bankstown-6-6-09-a.html)

Critical Reynolds No 18th Jun 2009 22:07
Engine quit late downwind at Bankstown 6/6/09
 
Sorry if a repost but I did a search before hand.
YouTube - Forced landing Bankstown 6June09

and

YouTube - Bankstown forced landing

"Blimey, he's gonna stall, he's gonna stall".

Ultralights 18th Jun 2009 22:39
that looked a lot worse from where i saw it, in the runup bay of 29R.
good to see both exited and walked away with no obvious injuries.

rioncentu 18th Jun 2009 23:11
Great work.

What's the chance of having 2 camera rolling for th same incident??

KrispyKreme 18th Jun 2009 23:45
Wow, well done to the pilot:ok: .. i have to ask..but has this tape been sent to the ATSB ? i assume it has :ok:

Jabawocky 19th Jun 2009 00:44
What's the chance of having 2 camera rolling for th same incident??
You would think pretty slim, but these days the chances are getting better!

That was as close to disaster as you ever want to get!:uhoh:

Kept his cool though. Well done!

flog 19th Jun 2009 02:49
Don't forget to turn the master off...

Merlins Magic 19th Jun 2009 02:49
WOW...Thats amazing. Did you see the setup in that Bonza.:D

airman1 19th Jun 2009 03:10
Nice work to all involved! Where is the DR he will be drooling over the bonza setup for sure:E:E

glekichi 19th Jun 2009 03:11
Is it just me, or did he actually wing-drop stall onto the grass? :suspect:

flog 19th Jun 2009 03:13
Is it just me, or did he actually wing-drop stall onto the grass?
He was just applying 3-pointer short field taildragger techniques.

Joker 10 19th Jun 2009 05:47
If everyone in GAAP did nice tight circuits not wide B747 circuits this would not even rate a mention the runway would be in glide distance from mid downwind as it should be.

Dave Incognito 19th Jun 2009 06:30
Regardless of your circuit size, a normal powered 3 degree approach is going to mean you are beyond gliding distance of the black stuff at some stage...

PlankBlender 19th Jun 2009 07:29
Can anyone who knows the locality try to shed light on what the pilot seems to attempt in the seconds before the rather sudden arrival?

I'm a bit puzzled by the angle of bank so close to the ground :eek: Where is the trying to turn, towards the taxiway just behind the waiting Bo?

GAFA 19th Jun 2009 07:38
Great job, looks like he come close to the sports fields at Condell Park High School.

das Uber Soldat 19th Jun 2009 07:42
Can anyone who knows the locality try to shed light on what the pilot seems to attempt in the seconds before the rather sudden arrival?

I'm a bit puzzled by the angle of bank so close to the ground http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...milies/eek.gif Where is the trying to turn, towards the taxiway just behind the waiting Bo?
He had to fly between the toll hanger and the hanger next to it. He was literally below the level of the buildings and flying between them, hence the HTT guy thinking he wasn't going to make it. The angle of bank was to turn right towards the clear area of the undershoot for 29. If he had straight lined it, he would have hit the fence and the road / poles etc behind it.

A hell of a job in my books. :)

Ultralights 19th Jun 2009 08:09
If everyone in GAAP did nice tight circuits not wide B747 circuits this would not even rate a mention the runway would be in glide distance from mid downwind as it should be.
i have been roasted a few time by CFI's for teaching, try to make every approach a glide approach. once the power is back to slow down on mid downwind, the throttle shouldn't be touched again until you need it to taxi. unless of course the student is going for CPL and higher.. then ill teach the 3 deg approach.

its how i was taught all those yrs ago, and its saved my arse once. and i teach it to my students. fortunately the CFI now approves of my technique.

ForkTailedDrKiller 19th Jun 2009 09:58
Nooooooooo!

The Dr has seen both the downtime and the bill when one of those big TVs goes blank!

But when I win Lotto ..............

Mr. Hat 19th Jun 2009 10:35
Well done fella.

VH-XXX 19th Jun 2009 11:02
You'd expect the engine failure from the Skyfox operating there with the sewing machine up front, not a good old Lycoming. Great video from the chopper, makes me want to do a conversion. Good idea with the camera setup in the chopper, not a bad idea for all lessons if the student bothers to watch it afterwards.

b_sta 20th Jun 2009 00:22
i have been roasted a few time by CFI's for teaching, try to make every approach a glide approach. once the power is back to slow down on mid downwind, the throttle shouldn't be touched again until you need it to taxi. unless of course the student is going for CPL and higher.. then ill teach the 3 deg approach.

its how i was taught all those yrs ago, and its saved my arse once. and i teach it to my students. fortunately the CFI now approves of my technique.
Yep, I agree. If that had been the case here, the only worry would have been coming in too high over the runway, rather than whether he'd make it at all. Nevertheless, the plane and the passengers came out in one piece, so that's the important thing and a job well done.


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