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eliasg17 17th Nov 2008 14:21

Melbourne Flight Training
 
What do you think of MFT?

Yusef Danet 17th Nov 2008 20:46

Better customer service than what has become the norm around Moorabbin.

crank1000 17th Nov 2008 22:52

Good Reports only
 
I know that they are very busy and you might need to even organise a start date for a full time course. They have good quality instructors who have been around aviation alot longer than instructors in many other schools. Plenty of grade one and two's.

They teach all the way to MECIR and ATPL theory.

Yes, I do know a couple of people there.

andrewmizzi 17th Nov 2008 23:02

I've been looking around for the best school. I've heard bad things about what is now Oxford Aviation, I like the look and feel of MFT, MFS and MAS.

Is MFT the best choice between the four listed above?

WannaBeBiggles 18th Nov 2008 07:49

I just moved down to Melbourne and decided on Peter Bini's because of their excellent reputation and the fact that they do not have international students (don't flame me, just my preference)

I'm starting down here mid way through my CPL so have been around the flying scene for a few years (bought a house which stopped me from flying any more than just casually) so have heard most flying school marketing gimics.

But again, Peter Binis appealed to me, and have nothing negative to say about any operators on the field.

Best Rate 18th Nov 2008 10:51

Good work Buckers, P.A. , and the rest of the team at MFT for keeping just the right amount of fun and 'social atmosphere' in amongst the tradition and regiment of a Flying Training organisation.... :D

Keep up the good work guys!

See ya Friday arvo's over Summer,

BR

ReverseFlight 18th Nov 2008 11:01

WBB, just a slight correction to your post.

Bini's have student pilots from all over the world including Malaysia, Bangalore, China and Hong Kong, just to name a few.

I agree that all 4 schools mentioned in this thread are excellent and students won't go wrong with any of them.

And yes, I hereby declare I know people in most of those schools mentioned.

eliasg17 18th Nov 2008 11:17

Hi guys!Thanks for the information!!
I am really looking into australia for my training and have really looked in to mft and mfs..What do you people think about mfs?I have sent some emails to gfs but havent had any response...Btw,do you think there will be jobs for flight instructors in the near future?
thanks

newagebird 18th Nov 2008 12:30

eliasg17

hey mate, if your thinking of joining as a private student you wont be able to get in. Unfortunately GFS only accepts students who join a course, i.e Swinburne university of TAFE college courses and other airline cadets they process.

best of luck
newagebird

Jerr 19th Nov 2008 11:15

A vote for MFT - Melbourne Flight Training
 
Hi

I finished off my CPL with MFT - Melbourne Flight Training last month. I was very happy with the training there and the can do attitude. The CPL flight test was straightforward in the end because of the training that I had, even when the testing officer made things complicated.

I had been flying elsewhere and it was not quite right. Very happy I switched to MFT, and wish I had done that a lot sooner.

I flew with Reinhard and Nick. Next year I will be doing my instructor rating with Cameron.
:ok:
Very satisfied customer, with a great feel to the place.

JERR

PlankBlender 19th Nov 2008 11:29

Jerr, just out of interest, what did the ATO do to throw you off your game? Was it M or P?

vee1-rotate 20th Nov 2008 10:28

ergh...if it was P, just his personality would have thrown you off:oh::oh:

crank1000 20th Nov 2008 23:00

MFT?
 
eliasg17

I trained at GFS and whilst I have gipes (mostly cost) the actual standard they got me too was good. Having said that, Just being in the MFT building and seeing the atmoshere I would say that I would recommend MFT. It's the only place I've seen where the CP will get a question from a student and take as long as needed to get the student understanding the answer. The hire rates are also very reasonable and as I posted before, the instructors have alot of hours between them.
MFS seem very centred around international students but not having any idea about the place I won't comment on them.

GABLUES 25th Nov 2008 08:06

crank 1000
 
Just the opposite at MFS, they are slanted towards the local market.
Everybody seems to get equal attention.

dlx_xlb 7th Dec 2008 10:31

Melbourne Flight Training is by far one of the best schools Ive ever seen.
I Came from GFS Point Cook after not being happy with my progression there.
Moved over to MFT and what do ya know. Finished off my CPL within 2 Months. And then my Instructor Rating at MFT. And now Work for MFT. And love it

The instructors at MFT are by far the most experienced and knowledgeable (Super Cam) on the airport. After Having done my rating with him. Im quite happy with the end result. Theres also a good vibe just being in the building.

The Fleet of aircraft is great. Cant Complain about that.

Only thing i can say. Is that MFT is starting to expand. And pretty soon were going to need a bigger or another building. Can get hard at times to find a breifing room when the place is busy.

andrewmizzi 9th Dec 2008 09:37

Well for me, in the end my choice between schools was either at MFS or MFT. Both had great recommendations, facilities, culture etc, but MFS was more than $35 cheaper per lesson.

As a self-funded student pilot, money isn't the most important factor in chosing a school...but it does mean that compared to MFT, I get an extra lesson for the same money every 7 flights at MFS.

Stormynights 9th Dec 2008 09:52

pc
 
If PC works there
cant recomend a better instructor
if your not a tosser
got me through all my stuff

manymak 9th Dec 2008 10:12

I had to pop into MFT recently regarding a few enquires. Spoke to GB, extremely friendly and gave me the time of day. Same couldn't be said about RVAC unfortunatly.

crank1000 9th Dec 2008 22:38

Got mixed up
 
Meant to say MAS were very internationally focused. Not MFS.

David5326 10th Dec 2008 11:02

The greatest thing i have found from my training with MFT is the CFI. He will always find a way to get things done in the most efficient way, and is always willing to go out of his way for any customer

eliasg17 10th Feb 2009 20:28

Hello again.
I have been searching MFT and i see mostly of you have replied positive:-)What is there reputation around australia?how long have they been in service?Do they have any graduates flying for airlines?Can anyone pm me with more info regarding MFT?
:ok:

Jerr 11th Feb 2009 00:16

MFT flying
 
Hi Eliasg17

One of the owners of MFT is a B737 Captain for Virgin. One of their MECIR & CPL students from last year has been selected for Qantaslink.

I am sure that there are others...

Good luck


JERR

eliasg17 11th Feb 2009 15:31

Is there anyone that knows anything negative about them?
:)

Di_Vosh 11th Feb 2009 19:54

Elias
 
Give it up!

You registered on Prune just over two years ago, and nearly all of your posts since then have been "What is this flying school like".

If you haven't got all the information you want after TWO YEARS then I really don't think that there's much help left for you.

You ask questions like:


What is there reputation around australia?
and yet the twenty or so positive answers aren't enough for you. Nor are the dozens of other recommendations for MFT in several other threads on D&G!

And yet you still feel the need to ask questions like


Is there anyone that knows anything negative about them?
Seriously, this is D&G! (You know, the forum where negative comments are like flies in February!). People create Prune identities on D&G just to slag off flying schools and employers! If there were any negative comments about the place, you'd have heard them by now!

Research is all very well, and choosing the correct school is important. But your questions are becoming more and more repetitive and inane.

If you can't make up your mind after two years, then there's not much hope for you!

My opinion!

eliasg17 11th Feb 2009 20:44

Is this a problem?As i am not living in australia,i want to get as much as infos as possible before my father spends so much money on airplane tickets to check out the schools...time will be short for us downunder......:)

dflyer100 11th Feb 2009 21:07

Fair Go
 
Di Vosh,

He can ask as many questions as he likes.

I reackon good on him at his age. Remember knowledge is power.

How many of us out there have made bad flight training decisions in the past. :ugh:

Sunstar320 12th Feb 2009 08:44


Is there anyone that knows anything negative about them?
Um..Well the dishwasher is broken at the moment

badhaircut 12th Feb 2009 10:32

Lets hope M makes a full recovery

eliasg17 12th Feb 2009 12:09

I iwll have them all as options until i finally see them for my self:ok:

Mcburn 2nd Mar 2009 03:36

Hello fellow aviators!

I am also wating to become a pilot and in the process of picking an appropriate flying school. I've read very good things about both MFT and MFS and will be heading down there to check them both out sometime this week. Just a quick question, is there an intake period for these flying schools? I've heard from some friends that you can start in the middle of the year and therefore opted to take a 6months off this year after graduation from my bachelors degree.

thanks!

Macrage 2nd Mar 2009 04:55

RE: MFT,

Don't forget guys that there is another factor that does make MFT stand out above the rest of the flying schools at YMMB, the fact that a portion of the flight instructors are current airline pilots and hence are well connected to the industry. A lot of people miss the concept that once you do graduate with a CPL/MECIR that you actually need to get out there and find work! MFT is one of the few places around where you can actually meet people who can genuinely help get your CAREER underway and not just your training. Too many a flying school in this country who simply half ass train you and then boot you out the door when your finished and payed up without a single helping hand to help you find that slippery first job. Believe me when I say that a good reference for a resume and a helping hand is worth a thousand hours when it comes to job hunting and thats where MFT shines.

ReverseFlight 2nd Mar 2009 05:59

I agree MFT is one of the better schools in MB but I've heard mixed reports about some of their instrument training, apart from the common problem of aged aircraft. But then this is a rumour network, right ?

Nobody's perfect. Do your research properly before committing.

LaTus 3rd Mar 2009 12:32

Chilli. Glen is spelt with one 'n', ya d***head.

WTSPT 4th Mar 2009 03:01

Do what everyone else does guys - advertise in the mags - stop browsing this site and getting the acolytes to bend over.

Silly Chilli: You have missed the point entirely. If you are looking for a GOOD school what sort of twit would primarily rely on an advertisement they see in a magazine :eek:. And in addition to this my lonely little friend :{, MFT's primary source of clients come from walk in's and individuals whom have done their research and spoken to people in the industry whom very openly recommend to go and do their training with them; not from the website as you so inaccurately suggest.

By the way kiddo, the "I love Glen Brigade" does not arise from thin air. People are drawn to the school because he and don't forget Pete, genuinely care about the individuals training at present and where they will end up in the future. The evidence is everywhere, from people all over the industry and whom gladly and continually recommend MFT as the place to go and do your training.

One last thing; If MFT was to conform and do what everyone else does... it would just become another school then. Somehow I don't think they will be likely take your worldly advice mate.

RHINO.

2BNASty 4th Mar 2009 22:08

MFT = quality and care
 
here here rhino.
I've been down to MFT, sensational atmosphere.. fantastic crew, excellent facilities.
I was around back in the day when another school occupied that building - thankfully genuine people have since taken over and created a fantastic school - MFT.
As for advertising Chilly - don't get upset!!
A business has truely succeeded if it can rely on word of mouth.. this school has built an excellent reputation based on quatlity training and genuine care -stop thowing your money around advertising and spend it on your students you goose...
2B
:D:D:ok::ok:

mustangranch 5th Mar 2009 04:50

Dear Mr. Chilli,
Well as you are well aware (as you use this forum) it clearly is a very good way to talk about good or poor schools. After all, you read them.....
If people are happy to write nice things about the school, leave them be. Go ahead and slander Glen, but I personally feel that you're a poor sport and clearly have no idea who or what Glen stands for.
Cheerio champ

Jman1984 5th Mar 2009 09:40

I had my first flight at MFT over a year ago. At the time I was still visiting many of the schools at Moorabbin trying to decide which would be best suited to my needs, and yes, considering the cadetships and uni courses available, even though realistically I had no chance of being able to afford the upfront dough. I was absolutely floored by the level of service offered by MFT. Glen offered to have a chat with me to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of having a degree, flying part time etc. He made sure all my questions were answered, and gave me his honest opinion (mostly positive) of his competitors. Pete is also a very approachable guy, and introduced himself straight away.

The same cannot be said about some of the other flight schools I visited. One even seemed to look down in contempt at begginers (at least the impression that I received). Canned that option very quickly.

nitrofruit 8th Mar 2009 05:32

1st post
 
Hi there from a new poster.
I have just moved down to Melbourne with about 50hrs flying under my belt and have just been to Moorabbin to check out some schools.
I was very impressed with MFT as the OWNER of the flight school came and spoke to me and wasn't at all hurried by the mass of questions i had to ask. Very helpful.
It seems that there is a strong link with the school and Virgin as many of the instructors fly or have flown with them.
I was also impressed by the atmosphere in the building. Students are encouraged to hang around after lessons, ask questions, chat to other students/instructors etc. When I went upstairs there were students playing pool, reading notes on the couches, drinking behind the bar.
Oh yeah and the sim looks fun too!
Overall very impressed. Looking forward to my first flights in the next few weeks.


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